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Can Libertarians take a joke? 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 75
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Re: Can Libertarians take a joke? 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 262
Hilarious!!!

The only sad element here is that what the clip actually mocks is Libertarian extremism. In fact Libertarianism is no more of a "dirty word" than Socialism. Put another way; a functional, prosperous society would likely have EQUAL amounts of libertarian and socialist influence.

Most ideologies are not ENTIRELY flawed. But they are all SEVERELY FLAWED. Thus practicing/preaching any ideology in either a "pure" or "extreme" form is when a person devolves from a rational human being into an IDEOLOGUE.

The moment you here some idiot-ideologue claim that their Dogma gives them "all the answers"; you KNOW that they lack any rational answers, at all...


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Re: Can Libertarians take a joke? 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 75
Thus there is value in holistic thinking. When I was 20 something I was bitten by the Ayn Rand bug. Now, well, let's say I've evolved. Yet I still cannot entirely discount her work. I've thought before that in a holistically integrated system, capitalism would be a principle, a thread making up a mosaic, not a complete system unto itself. The same goes for other isms. While not meaning to blow smoke up your ass, Jeff, hearing your thoughts on this is, to use a perhaps awkward metaphor, like getting a chiropractic adjustment after having forgotten for weeks how much I really needed one. It is not until after the adjustment happens that I realize how much I needed it.

By the way, most libertarians I know CAN in fact take a joke, and I admire this as it is in contrast to the "conservatives" I know who can't and largely, in my experience at least, have no functioning sense of humor.
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Re: Can Libertarians take a joke? 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 218
Libertarians, come mainly in two forms. I've found-

- Big Business (Koch Bros), Hamilton- a what's good for BP is good for everyone.

- Small Business (Earl), Jefferson- a what's good for my unique community.

It's hard to believe true libertarians are for legalization, pro-choice, gay rights, open immigration, anti war and individual freedom. Letting a community evolve, whether it's Quaker, Rasta, Muslim, Christian, ect.

When Oligarchs like the "Hamilton belief", slaughter Native Americans for a Railroad and Manifest Destiny, feed a WAR Machine today. These people have no integrity. Let alone a sense of humor.

capitalism would be a principle, a thread making up a mosaic

That was nice-

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It's hard to believe true libertarians are for legalization, pro-choice, gay rights, open immigration, anti war and individual freedom. Letting a community evolve, whether it's Quaker, Rasta, Muslim, Christian, ect.



Just to be clear, did you make a typo? Did you mean to say "It's hard to believe true libertarians are for legalization..." OR "It's hard to believe true libertarians are NOT for legalization..."? I'm not picking a fight. I'm just asking for clarity so that I understand you. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Re: Can Libertarians take a joke? 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 218
agau121,

"Dialogue" is how we "evolve".

It's hard to believe-- TRUE "libertarians" are for legalization, ect.
People SAY they're "Libertarians". When you ask about legalization they'll say NO to liberal. It's just become a very polluted term in my own time.

Libertarianism is a set of related political philosophies which emphasize individual liberty, political freedom and voluntary association.


Please, feel free to ask anything- I've certainly enjoyed your post(s) and most of all your sincerity.

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I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I'm still unclear. It sounds like you are saying the a true libertarian would OBJECT to legalization, pro-choice, gay rights, open immigration, anti war and individual freedom.

Perhaps it's a matter of semantics, or perhaps you are attempting to convey some nuance that I do not understand, but it would seem to me that libertarians are generally people who do NOT object to legalization, pro-choice, gay rights, open immigration, anti war and individual freedom.

If you are tired of this discussion or you find it too tedious to continue, please feel free to decline to reply. I'm simply trying to understand you; that is, to avoid misunderstanding you. Online communication has its limits. It's conducive to dialog but not entirely conducive to conversation. In a real conversation, there would be no misunderstanding because I would be able to easily and efficiently ask you to clarify your meaning until I was certain I understood you.
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Re: Can Libertarians take a joke? 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 218
agau121,

I don't mean to beat a dead horse


Pro- Freedom- Pro- legalization, pro-choice, pro gay rights, pro open immigration, pro anti war and pro individual freedom. Letting a community evolve, whether it's Quaker, Rasta, Muslim, Christian, ect.

Libertarianism is a set of related political philosophies which emphasize individual liberty, political freedom and voluntary association.


You really need to post on "Musical Musings". I do feel you have a song in your heart.

Maybe, more than one-

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Re: Can Libertarians take a joke? 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 75
Now I get it. It was simply a communication difficulty.

Musical musings? I'll take a look, but my guess is that I would have almost nothing to say. Nonetheless, I'll take a look.
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