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#20418
Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 279
Yes Mertis, sometimes a quote is "notable" not because of the words IN the quote, but the context around them.


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Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: 279
Spotted this one on Sinclair's site, got a chuckle, and decided I had to post it here:

Mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness, the other to total extinction. Let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose wisely.

– Woody Allen

I've always been a big fan of Woody Allen's earlier work. So I'm going to add "philosopher" and "prophet" to "comic" on his list of achievements. Certainly choosing between utter despair/hopelessness and extinction seems to be a VERY good summary of where we stand today...

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Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 242
“Politicians are put there to give you that idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations, and they’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the State Houses, and the City Halls. They’ve got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies so they control just about all the news and information you get to hear. They’ve got you by the balls.

They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I’ll tell you what they don’t want—they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interest. You know something, they don’t want people that are smart enough to sit around their kitchen table and figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.

It’s a big club and you ain’t in it! You and I are not in the Big Club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you in the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks, the game is rigged. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on, the fact that Americans are and will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes every day. Because the owners of this country know the truth, it’s called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.” – George Carlin
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Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 279
Earl, it would be really tough to edit-out any of that (extended) quote below. However, I would suggest that you might have used bold-face for the last line...

...it’s called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.


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#21725
Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 168
Science is neutral, Science is not all human knowlege, it is a very specific dicipline, it says lets try and look at natural causes, that might explain natural effect, and that may not, that doesn't explain everything in nature. It is unfortunate with science that scientists suggest that science is all there is, and there aren't other kinds of truths, but it works pretty well and it is the basis of modern technological society. - Lawrence Krauss(This guy is only next to dawkins in his atheism)

Source: From this youtube video v=DtP020hXiAU#t=539s
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Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 279
Samix, while the author of this quote may be an astute individual, you couldn't tell from his lingusitic talents.



However, despite the awkward wording here I understand and appreciate the sentiment. Let me try to re-phrase it -- and see if I can make it more accessible to people.

What we see today with "evolution" dogma (and what we have seen in the past on many occasions, with many different subjects) is that "scientific thought" stagnates. Following some period of breakthrough/revelation, it is natural to see some sort of intellectual plateau.

This is due to the fact that obviously "genius" is not some straight-line function which allows for the smooth advancement of knowledge/technology. Instead, what we see through History is a pattern of spikes and plateaus.

Because of our inherent arrogance (one of our most-damaging flaws); once we hit these intellectual plateaus, instead of science being the leading voice of change/progress it turns into a dogmatic collection of ZEALOTS -- who do little other than congratulate each other for having already achieved perfection.



Thus any/all newcomers to their world (with NEW IDEAS) are seen as "threats" and treated as "heretics." The distinction between science and religion essentially disappears.

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Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 168
"The idea that science is a uniquely self critical institution is ofcourse preposterous, scientists are no more self critical than anyone else, they hate to be criticized and they never criticize themselves"
- David Berlinski

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berlinski
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Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 168
"Lets all be reasonable we are all sophisticated men and women, that the popular myth of science as a unique self critical institution, and scientists as men who would rather be consumed at the stake rather than fudge the data, I mean thats ok for a PBS special, but thats not the real world thats not whats taking place, people fudge the data, wherever they can get away from it.....Think of your last traffic ticket."
- David Berlinski
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Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 168
Malik Shabaaz as he is known by the Muslims after he became a Muslim or most famously known as "Malcolm X", made a very apt observation that is relevant even today only the players have changed.

“Back during slavery, when people like me talked to the slaves, they didn’t kill them. They sent some old house Negro along behind him to undo what he said. You have to read the history of slavery to understand this.

There were two kinds of Negroes. There was that old house Negro, and the field Negro. And the house Negro always looked out for his master. When the field Negroes got too much out of line, he held them back in check. He put them back on the plantation.

The house Negro could afford to do that because he lived better than the field Negro. He ate better, he dressed better, and he lived in a better house. He lived right up next to his master – in the attic or basement. He ate the same food as his master and wore his same clothes. And he could talk just like his master – good diction. And he loved his master more than his master loved himself. That’s why he didn’t want his master to get hurt.

If the master got hurt, he’d say: “What’s the matter boss, we sick?” When the master’s house caught afire, he’d try and put out the fire. He didn’t want his master’s house burnt. He never wanted his master’s property threatened. And he was more defensive of it than his master was.

That was the house Negro.

But then you had some field Negroes, who lived in huts, had nothing to lose. They wore the worst kind of clothes. They ate the worst food. And they caught hell. They felt the sting of the lash. They hated their master. Oh yes, they did. If the master got sick, they’d pray that the master would die. If the master’s house caught afire, they’d pray for a strong wind to come along. This was the difference between the two.

And today, you still have house Negroes and field Negroes…”
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Re: Notable Quotes... 2 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 279
Samix, while some will find the subject matter offensive; the PARADIGM here is eternal. The even less politically-correct collquialism for the "house Negroes" is "Uncle Toms" -- or (in more recent times) "Oreos": black on the outside, white on the inside.

The general paradigm is this: when you are part of a subjugated population, you are given no choice other than to be part of one of two "camps". You are either part of "the Resistance" or one of "the Collaborators".

The delusion that people can somehow remain "neutral" and/or "above the fray" is exposed in one of my own, favorite quotes -- which has made it into this thread at least a couple of times already:

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Edmund Burke -- Irish orator, philosopher, & politician (1729 - 1797)
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