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#14927
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 4 Months ago Karma: 52
OK, this seals it for me.
We all know that things are terribly out of control, and that something BIG is approaching.
What most of us don't know, is the extent to which the US Government has been preparing for it, and exactly how they are preparing.
So much crap is thrown at us on a daily basis, that we sometimes forget things, yet they are stored in the back of our minds.

Remember the story of the underground US & Russian bunkers? The Russian ones are public knowledge.
Remember the EU seed storage vault, confirmed & not denied at all.
Did you know that the National Guard has been training all year for control of the people?
Here it is, on CNBC!!!!!

www.shtfplan.com/marc-faber/pentagon-mil...ivil-unrest_11222010

I don't know about you, but I have food, water, power, and defense.
I believe I have a years worth of food, but I'm sure I need more.
I also need good seeds, not the Monsanto non-reproducing frankenseeds.
As I've said before, when you realize you need to prepare, it's already too late.
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#14929
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 4 Months ago Karma: 255
Bobbbny, none of this stuff surprises me in the slightest - ever since I heard that Dick Cheney and Alberto Gonzales were ploughing all of their own investment dollars into "private prison" companies.

It's not a matter of IF, just a matter of WHEN the U.S. government begins OFFICIALLY transforming its citizens into a slave population...
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#14968
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 71
Hmmm.. as Earl says.. "They ALL know something we don't..."

Peace,
Mertis


www.blacklistednews.com/Company_Who_Lobb...17108/0/0/0/Y/M.html

Company Who Lobbied for the NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill Given 23 Million Dollar Contract for Night Raid Equipment
December 21, 2011
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Source: IntelHub

According to reports from the Daily Kos and Russia Today, a company specializing in night raid equipment was awarded a 23 million dollar contract from the Department of Defense and subsequently went on to lobby for the NDAA which has given the government the power to indefinitely detain American citizens.

Sunfire LLC openly lobbed for the House version of the NDAA, a bill many have claimed has effectively ended the Bill of Rights, months after receiving the 23 million dollar contact from the DOD.

Why would this company be receiving a contract which could outfit at least 30,000 troops with new and updated night raid equipment when the U.S. is supposedly pulling troops out of Iraq and, to a smaller extent, Afghanistan?

Why has this same company gone on to lobby for a bill that has turned the United States into a war zone?

From the Daily Kos:

So what does Surefire make? In a word, night-raid equipment, with a fresh new $23 million contract from the DoD even as we saw troops pulling out of Iraq and they are about to pull out of Afghanistan.

The product catalog main categories read things like “weapon lights, helmet lights, sound suppressors, high capacity magazines.” The equipment is relatively cheap, not big ticket items in Defense Department terms. That means this is a big contract. A $23 million contract would buy enough of these things to outfit maybe 50,000 soldiers.

If we are pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan, what is all this stuff for? Night-raid gear? These are basically made to blind people as they awake from you busting down their door, not for open combat.

In a night firefight you don’t want any lights near you whatsoever. That gives the other guy an easy target.

Does it seem likely that the night raid gear that will be provided to the DOD under the 23 million dollar contract will be used outside the United States when the company who won the contract is lobbying for a bill that lets the military operate against American citizens inside the country?

As we have reported in the past, the plans for martial law in America have long been drawn up and the idea that either our own military, foreign military’s or a combination of both will be used against the American people has steadily gained ground as millions of people around the world have become aware of these dastardly plans.

Every week it seems more and more information is released that further proves these plans are real and already capable of becoming fully operational with 72 hours.

Whether it be Ron Paul warning about the NDAA and martial law or United Nations troops carrying out martial law drills within the US, the fact remains that the possibility of a martial law scenario in this country remains very real.

Still not convinced?

In 2008 the Pentagon openly announced their plans for a 20,000 strong military force(this is the number they admit, the actual number is sure to be much higher) set to operate within the United States. This internal force was also called for in a Rand Corporation document titled, “A Stability Police Force for the United States”

The Pentagon has an openly promoted a program(1033) that has given away close to $500 million in leftover military equipment to law enforcement in the fiscal year of 2011.

A recent document from former Halliburton subsidiary KBR outlined their need for subcontractors to be ready to provide various functions needed to establish FEMA camps in America within 72 hour notice.

Multiple cities have seen the military take part in various police work including in Florida City which had the Air Force set up a crime prevention hotline and take part in arrests at a local convenience store.

The Pentagon and Military have been actively war gaming for what they see as a looming large scale economic collapse that will lead to civil unrest.

Early this year FEMA requested information on their ability to acquire 140 million packets of food, blankets, and underwater body bags.

The examples above are no more than a small chunk of the ridiculous amount of evidence that has been released which proves that factions within our government are planning for a confrontation with the American people themselves.

Rather than live in fear, American citizens should consider preparing themselves for whatever lies ahead in the very near future.
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#14975
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 255
Thanks for the post Mertis.

Certainly I don't need convincing. When the U.S. started creating massive numbers of detention facilities (i.e. "private prisons") sufficient to incarcerate MILLIONS more Americans it was obvious they were intended to be USED - and were not merely more "bridges to nowhere". Everything we have learned since then completely reinforces that conclusion.

We now see why history repeats in large, long circles: those on top are hopelessly insane. They devote a CENTURY of time/effort, all so that they can (try to) steal 90% of all wealth rather than merely 80% - when thousands of years of history conclusively prove that EVERY time the ultra-wealthy try to steal MORE than 80% of everything, all that they do is to DESTROY THEIR OWN SYSTEM.

This is where we are headed today. The Oligarchs are embarked on a path which MUST destroy their own control system - at which point humanity will get a (more or less) fresh start, and a century of relatively unoppressed prosperity.

Our task is to SURVIVE the coming self-destruction as best as we are able...
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#15093
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 71
As some of us "Bulls" do not have 'city water' and count on a pump and well, here are 2 ways of reaching that water when the power goes down.

Peace,
Mertis

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www.countrysidemag.com/issues/83/83-1/Steve_Belanger.html

How to get water from a drilled well when the power is off

By Steve Belanger
Countryside Staff

Most homesteaders get their water from private, drilled wells. Most private wells use electric pumps. Ordinary buckets won’t fit in a (commonly) 6" well casing. Therefore, without electricity, most homesteaders won’t have water.
The well bucket on the left took weeks to arrive and with shipping, cost more than $50. The one on the right was put together in under an hour, for $9.80.
The well bucket on the left took weeks to arrive and with shipping, cost more than $50. The one on the right was put together in under an hour, for $9.80.

We thought the solution to this would be a "well bucket" that fits drilled wells as small as 5". Apparently, many others had the same thought. The item was backordered and it took almost a month to get delivery.

By then I had put together a homemade one, from parts available at the local hardware store.

Then we discovered that neither one would work in our well. Although both easily fit into the casing, they did not fit past the plumbing.

What now?

At the Midwest Renewable Energy Fair last summer, an anonymous visitor dropped a sheet of plans for an interesting-looking simple hand pump on the table at the Countryside booth. We built one.

It consisted of an off-the-shelf foot valve and some PVC pipe and fittings. The only tool needed was a saw, to cut one section of pipe to length. (The water level in the well was at 20 feet. We made the total length of the pipe, including foot valve and fittings, about three feet longer, so the foot valve would be under water and there would still be a foot or so of pipe above the top of the well casing.)

We uncapped the well and inserted the pipe and foot valve. It went past the electric pump with room to spare.

To pump water, we grasped the top of the pipe, and plunged it up and down.

On the downstroke, water entered the pipe via the foot valve. On the upstroke, the foot valve held the water in the pipe. On the next downstroke, the water level inside the pipe rose. Eventually, it rose high enough to spill out the top, where it ran into a hose and down into our waiting container.

Once the flow started, it took about a minute-and-a-half to pump a gallon. (It pumps on the downstroke only.) It was work, but it was the solution we were looking for.

By attaching a hook near the top, this pump can be stored in the well without interfering with the electric pump and regular plumbing. If the power goes out, all we have to do is remove the well cap and start pumping.

If the power is off for a long period, or if larger quantities of water are needed for livestock or other uses, it would be helpful to have this pump rigged to some kind of wind or pedal power. But even hand-operated, it’s an amazingly simple solution to a perplexing problem.
Figure 1
Figure 1

Ed. note: We have learned that this pump was designed by Keith Hendricks, who lives in "northwestern Ohio." He has distributed thousands of copies of the plans at survival expos (and the Midwest Renewable Energy Fair). This is exactly the kind of ingenuity — and community spirit — we’ve been saying will be an essential part of homesteading in the future!
How to make a well bucket

1 ea. 3" PVC pipe 36" long $1.93
1 ea. PVC couple 1-1/2" x 3" (reducer) 2.79
1 seat, disk screw type (toilet tank) 2.89
1-1/2" x 1/8" x 48" flat bar stock 2.19
1 ea. 24" heavy wire (for handle)
1 ea. 6" piece valley tin (for seat disk bar guide) .00
Total $9.80

Drill a 1/8" hole in the bar stock, 1/2" from one end, and put a 90° bend 1" from that end.

Make 90° bends 3" and 1" from the other end to form a handle.

Screw seat disk to handle.

In PVC pipe, drill 1/4" hole 1" from end, all the way through, for the wire handle. Bend the valley tin to fit inside the PVC and drill holes to match those in the PVC. Make a slot about 1/4" x 3/4" in middle of valley tin to slide over handle to hold it in place.

Assemble all the pieces and glue the reducer to the bottom of the PVC. Be sure the disk seat moves up and down.

Use your imagination and whatever you have laying around and I’m sure you can improve on this.
How to make a hand pump

The hand pump [in Figure 1] is as simple as a paper clip — and just as ingenius. Just buy the parts, put them together, and start pumping! It took us about 20 minutes to put one together — and it cost less than $20.

The exploded view at left shows the (from top) hose adaptor; pipe adaptor; pipe (the short section here is for demonstration: it must be long enough to reach the water level in your well); another adaptor; and the foot valve.

Not shown is the guide sleeve (which increases efficiency, and keeps the pump away from the regular plumbing and wiring in the well), and the hooks and cord that enable you to leave this pump in the well, ready to use in an emergency. Click to enlarge

Diagram description:

A. 5/8 or larger ID garden hose
B. 3/4 NPT to garden hose adapter
C. Open eye hook, washers, nuts
D. Well cap
E. 1/8" nylon hanging cord
F. 3/4" PVC schedule 40 to 3/4 NPT adapter
G. 1/2" carriage bolts, washers, nuts
H. 1-1/2" ID PVC schedule 40 collar
I. Ground level
J. Electric power pump wiring
K. 3/4" ID PVC sched. 40 pipe collar
L. 3/4" ID PVC sched. 40 pipe section
M. Electric power pump feed line
N. Water table
O. 1-1/2" ID PVC sched. 40 pipe
P. 1/2" holes in 1-1/2" PVC pipe sleeve
Q. 1/8" diam. weep hole
R. 3/4" foot valve
S. 1-1/2" PVC shed. 40 pipe cap
T. Metal well casing

Notes: The weep hole is drilled above the foot valve, but a good distance below the frost line. When the pumping stops, the water slowly drains out to prevent freezing.

Disinfect all pump parts before placing them in the well. Disinfect your hands before using the pump.
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#15098
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 255
Mertis, as a "city boy" this may not seem like particularly useful information.

However, just as it's probably a good idea for us city folk to learn something about generating our own POWER (via some form of generator) "just in case", we might also want to take a few moments to contemplate what we would do should our OWN water supply suddenly be in jeopardy.

In general terms, this post is another example of our innate adaptability/resiliency as human beings. With our civilization still mostly intact, most of us cannot even contemplate some sort of post-Armageddon world - where our socities and economies have essentially broken down.

It is EQUALLY difficult to envisage how we could EMERGE from such an economic catastrophe. This brings us to yet another old cliche (and the wisdom it contains): "necessity is the mother of invention."

We WILL find ways to adapt to these sorts of challenges - since it's precisely that adaptability which originally allowed us to spread and multiply all over the planet. Indeed, as the Oligarchs continue their raping-and-pillaging I'm sure they JUSTIFY their crimes against humanity with the 'logic' that no matter how much harm/suffering THEY cause that WE will find some way to survive their oppression...
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#15108
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 255
Just a reminder for the regular readers of this thread (in case you missed it elsewhere) that we just announced the first month's winners in our Providence Supplies Silver Trivia Contest:

www.bullionbullscanada.com/index.php?opt...2&id=14628#15107

Next month's question (and more great prizes from Providence Supplies) is on the way in the next day or two, so keep your eyes tuned-in to our latest contest thread...
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#15168
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 255
Heads up everyone, as the January question for Providence Supplies "Silver Trivia" has just come out...!


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#15170
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 69
My plumbing in case of emergency is a bit simpler: 1 bucket with rope attatched. I live on Lake Ontario
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#15180
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 2 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 204
Brian,

I don't expect others to have the same advantage as you or I.( fresh natural springs here)

BTW- Mertis was wondering if they still issue the "safety book" about how much poisoned fish you are allowed to eat each week/month, as they did for Lake Michigan...

Earl

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