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Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 1 Year, 4 Months ago Karma: 204
To the Community,

Bits and pieces from the story, has a few short videos on Cuba and Thailand's answers.
Interesting Link-

localorg.blogspot.com/2012/12/dont-survi...apse-prevent-it.html

December 5, 2012 (LocalOrg) - Cuba, Thailand, New York City. All three have faced either economic or natural disasters. The adversity and degree to which each was affected varies, but all have lent us invaluable lessons and warnings about future, inevitable collapses and disasters. With this knowledge in hand we can begin preparing ahead of time, so not only do we "survive" the collapse, but we create thriving, advanced communities that remain entirely unaffected by such collapses - after all, prevention is the best medicine.

Black Agenda Report's article, "The Hurricane and the Failed State" concluded by saying:

"There will always be catastrophes but we should not expect a failed system to save us from them."

If ever a sentiment has been qualified by a real world example, the community response marshaled by the underfunded, underrated Occupy Sandy movement - working in the shadow of multi-million dollar federal agencies and international organizations - is it. Occupy Sandy's advantage was that despite the little resources they had, their intentions were genuine, their purpose was both urgent and personal, and the stakes were a community they themselves must live in and the benefits of getting it back up and running again as quickly as possible.

The lesson is clear, "get a plan, get a program, and do it yourself or it won't get done."

What if "Occupy Sandy" wasn't just a re-purposed, ad hoc movement? What if it was a permanent local institution of, by and for the people to address their most important concerns through the same pragmatism and community effort exhibited after Hurricane Sandy? What if such an institution was around before the storm hit? As in Cuba, the result of what was a disaster narrowly averted, would have been adversity soundly managed.

Conclusion=


The New Theory aims at preserving traditional agrarian values in the hands of the people. It also aims at preventing a migration from the countryside into the cities. Preventing such migrations would prevent big agricultural cartels from moving in, swallowing up farming land, corrupting and even jeopardizing entire national food supplies (see Monsanto).

Also, by moving to the city, people give up private property, cease pursuing productive occupations, and end up being folded into a consumerist paradigm. Within such a paradigm, problems like overpopulation, pollution, crime, and economic crises can only be handled by a centralized government and generally yield political solutions such as quotas, taxes, micromanagement, and regulations rather than meaningful technical, and most importantly, permanent solutions.

Also, such problems inevitably lead to a centralized government increasing its own power, always at the expense of the people and their freedom. The effects of economic catastrophe are also greater in a centralized, interdependent society, where everyone is subject to the overall health of the economy for even simple necessities like food, water, and electricity.
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Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 1 Year, 3 Months ago Karma: 52
For all you followers,
I just posted a new thread under "General Economic News", called the trillion dollat turd.
Here's my opening salvo.
I hope you pick it up.


There was a movie made in Japan, (I don't recall the name), but the story line was this;
The Emperor passes through a village, and leaves a Royal Dump.
A local peasant collects this Royal Turd, and spends the rest of his days protecting, preserving, and worshipping it.
This is the strength of his belief in the all powerful Majesty, knowledge, and beneficence of the Emperor.

Today, on the National Financial Game Shows, was paraded a man who espoused, apparently with the backing of several Congressional types, the minting of $ 1 Trillion coins by the Treasury.
These could be marched across the street to the Fed, who would obligingly print $1 Trillion in paper money in exchange.
This would obviate the messy need to have to raise the debt ceiling, and would be perfectly "legal", since the Treasury still retains the right to print US coinage.

Are you fucking kidding me?

I nearly fell out of my chair, not at the thought of what a blatant counterfeit operation this would be, but at the thought that by proposing this, (surely as a "trial balloon"), that the counterfeiters would actually expose themselves in broad daylight.

What's the difference between taking a few ounces of platinum & calling it a trillion dollars, than taking a stack of newly printed T-Bills & calling it a trillion dollars; or of taking the Emperors turd & calling it a trillion dollars?

The absurdity of the scheme does not shock me.
The fact that they would propose something that, in it's absurdity, finally allows the common citizen to comprehend the counterfeiting that has been going on is what shocks me.

As long as they could hide behind "T-Bills, notes, bonds, repos, debt ceilings, QE's", and anything else that people could not grasp, I get.
When they tell you a turd is worth $ 1 Trillion, I think people will begin to grasp the Ponzi scheme.

They are finally falling on their own knives, aren't they?

PS- US 90% silver has traded to a premium for the first time I can remember.
Eagles at a premium, yes. Always.
Pre 1965, no.
My dealer tells me there is no more 90% coming in.
It is dry & mined out.
He is scraping to put together $10m for a client.
Buy & hold physical, now more than ever.
Otherwise, they will sell you a turd.
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#21623
Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 1 Year, 3 Months ago Karma: 204
The original link has extra links (in blue on the original) for details even I could understand.
Legally enhance our current efforts of fighting against corporate monopolies

Thank You
Earl

WiFi + USB Drive = Your Own Mini-Internet (Freedom)

January 19, 2013

www.blacklistednews.com/WiFi_%2B_USB_Dri...697/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Source: Tony Cartalucci, BLN Contributing Writer

(LocalOrg) - Worried about draconian Internet laws? Creeping surveillance? The inability to share with others without being criminalized? The Internet is still a tool of tremendous power, but a deep rot has set in. We have caught it early and we are fighting to stop this rot, but there are other options we can begin exploring to hedge our bets, enhance our current efforts of fighting against corporate monopolies, and eventually, build an Internet of the people, by the people, for the people - big-telecom monopolies not welcomed.

Image (go to link-Earl): The PirateBox in use on a handheld device. Once the PirateBox is up and running, either on a standalone device like the one pictured to the right (background), or on your laptop as described here, it will appear as another WiFi network for people in range to connect to. Once connected files can be freely shared, and there is even a chat client users can communicate with. It is just as useful as a file server for a small business, as it is for circumventing the draconian criminalization of Internet file sharing.
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In last week's "Fighting Back Against the "Intellectual Property" Racket," the "PirateBox" was introduced. The PirateBox transforms a laptop, router, or single board computer into a mini-Internet hub where files can be freely shared, and even features a chat program so users can communicate. It is a lite version of the mesh networks described in December 2012's "Decentralizing Telecom" where independent mesh networks featured many software alternatives to emulate popular online programs such as Facebook, Twitter, Blogger, and others. The PirateBox is an introductory project anyone with a WiFi adapter and a USB thumbdrive can do on their own with a little motivation and an hour to experiment.

In a busy office, a PirateBox can serve as a simple local wireless file server and chat client. In an apartment complex, it can become the center of a social experiment, an opportunity to reach out to neighbors and organize constructively, or just for fun - building badly needed local communities back up.

Instructions for perhaps the easiest of PirateBox's implementations can be found on blogger, designer, and activist David Darts' website here. The instructions are nearly fool proof, and a lot of the common problems ran into are described and their solutions linked to throughout the explanation.

The PirateBox does not connect to the Internet, nor does it operate from your hard drive. It works entirely on the USB thumbdrive you install it on, simply using your computer's WiFi to network all who are in range.

Ideally you'd want to make a dedicated, standalone PirateBox to serve your space, office, and neighbors. A great place for beginners to embark on this is at your local hackerspace. If you don't have a local hackerspace, look into starting one up.

Protesting is important, but protesting alone will not stem the problem at its source. The rot will continue to spread unless we develop tangible tools to pragmatically excise it and repair the damage it has already done. The problem of corporate monopolies ensnaring and subjugating us through their telecom monopolies can and is being solved by solutions like mesh networks, the PirateBox, and the onward march of open source software and hardware, simply displacing proprietary products and services. The best way to ensure success is to have as many informed and constructive people as possible join in the problem-solving process.
....
Since posting about the PirateBox, LocalOrg has received several success stories of people who have either already been using it, or have looked into it, prompting this follow up. Continue sharing your success, and if you would like, contact us and have them covered here on LocalOrg.

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Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 1 Year, 3 Months ago Karma: 255
Earl, I forgot to toss in this thought when I read Debsyl's post about "drone-proof clothing"; but now that you've done this post I have TWO examples to refer to.

There are THREE eternal truths regarding ALL military technology. With respect to any/every military advance ever devised, enemies/potential enemies will either:

1) Steal and copy the technology.
2) Devise a successful counter-measure to the technology.
3) Create an even MORE horrible weapon to use in counter-attack.

Obviously in this case we're dealing with the most benign of those three dynamics: successful(?) counter-measures.

However, the general principle here is that devoting VAST amounts of any nation's resources to improving military technology (as the U.S. has done for at least 50 years) will always be a highly inefficient use of those resources.

Any/all "advantages" gained will be TEMPORARY (for the reasons listed above); while the useful spin-off technologies which eventually find their way into ordinary consumer manufacturing could have been devised faster/cheaper/more-efficiently through NON-military research.

As we all know, the only thing more INEFFICIENT than "government" are the military bureaucracies created and operated by these same governments...


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Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 255
Some cancer-treatment links from Redpill...




www.bullionbullscanada.com/bulletin-boar...ther-illnesses#22085
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Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 1 Year, 2 Months ago Karma: 71
Enjoy the free info...

Peace,
Mertis



>>>>> MOTHER LODE - Big caches of free & legal survival/TEOTWAWKI/homesteading downloads <<<<< (Updated Feb 22 2013)

www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1636228/pg1

Have you seen these sites? As far as I know, everything here is legal for downloading; nothing was shared without permission. Thou shalt not steal

Do you have any other sites with legally-shared downloads?

[link to cd3wd.com] (ENORMOUS. Please use Torrent)
[link to ssrsi.org] (Even bigger, but not as easy to get all. Can buy DVDs.)
[link to www.pssurvival.com]
[link to journeytoforever.org]
[link to soilandhealth.org] (Rare/out-of-print/valuable books like "The Natural Way of Farming" by M. Fukuoka)
[link to builditsolar.com]
[link to practicalaction.org] (These are now in CD3WD above)
[link to www.appropedia.org] (Also in CD3WD)
[link to www.fastonline.org]
[link to www.energyconservationinfo.org]
[link to www.small-farm-permaculture-and-sustainable-living.com] (You must sign up for the freebies. It's worth it.)
[link to www.agromisa.org]
[link to humanurehandbook.com]
[link to www.holmgren.com.au]
[link to www.freeselfdefensedvd.com]
[link to hesperian.org] (Home of the world famous "Where There Is No Doctor"/"Where There Is No Dentist")
[link to www.dft.gov.uk]
[link to www.aprovecho.org]
[link to www.arizonaenergy.org] (Homemade batteries)
[link to www.ki4u.com] (Scroll down for the free books)
[link to www.thegreenhorns.net]
[link to www.midstatebeekeepers.com]
[link to www.beesource.com]
[link to www.woodworkersworkshop.com]
[link to www.pvcplans.com]
[link to attra.ncat.org]
[link to www.jumpjet.info]
[link to www.thesurvivalistblog.net] (Good list)
[link to zackcovell.com] (Good list)
[link to www.equipped.org] (On the left side. Lots of free stuff, just gotta sort through the paid stuff)
[link to stevespages.com]
[link to www.wikitaxi.org] (Download all of Wikipedia)
[link to www.okawix.com] (Wikipedia offline alternative)
[link to aarddict.org] (Wikipedia offline alternative)
[link to code.google.com] (Wikipedia offline alternative)
[link to www.icsarchive.org]
[link to www.mediafire.com]
[link to courses.ncsu.edu] (Free 40 hour Permaculture college course videos, worth about $2000)
[link to www.green-trust.org]
[link to www.liberatedmanuals.com]
[link to ia700404.us.archive.org]
[link to preparedchristian.net]
[link to yggdrasildistro.wordpress.com]
[link to www.twdb.state.tx.us]
[link to modernsurvivalonline.com]
[link to www.thegreencenter.net]
[link to www.bushcraftliving.com]
[link to www.vintageprojects.com]
[link to laylowsbunker.com]
[link to www.rsarchive.org]
[link to www.pioneerhandbooks.com]
[link to www.tubebooks.org] (Radio books)



Lots more on these threads:
Thread: 37 Survival Downloads and Handbooks – Pioneering, SHTF, Engineering, Urban Gardening, Defense, and More
Thread: Survivalist: Edible Wild Plants Foraging & Uses Info @ GLP (Note: I still recommend a few good books on this subject to avoid mistaking poisonous plants!)
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] (Great thread! Plenty more!)

Here are some URLs I can't post because of autoban rules, but which are really good. Google them.
* Henriette's herbal, then click on Classic herbal works.
* South West School of Botanical Medicine

Then of course there's these. Good survival info here, but also good fiction to pass the time.
[link to www.archive.org]
[link to www.gutenberg.org]
[link to books.google.com]
[link to www.instructables.com]
[link to www.manybooks.net]
[link to www.amazon.com] (Free Kindle books. NOTE: There are free Kindle apps for your computer/phone)
[link to pamspriderecommendations.blogspot.com]
[link to www.planetebook.com]
[link to www.barnesandnoble.com] (Free Nook books. There are free Nook apps for your computer/phone.)
[link to hearth.library.cornell.edu]
[link to www.thefreelibrary.com]
[link to www.tpub.com]
[link to chestofbooks.com]
[link to www.techsupportalert.com] (614 places for free ebooks online!)
[link to www.nap.edu]
[link to www.booksshouldbefree.com]
[link to www.forgottenbooks.org]
[link to openlibrary.org]
[link to www.smashwords.com]
[link to zinelibrary.info]


Not related to survival, but valuable in the midst of a crisis:
[link to www.e-sword.net] (Once installed, launch+download oodles of extra content)
[link to www.faithcomesbyhearing.com] (Hundreds of different kinds/translations of audio Bibles)
[link to freechristianaudiobooks.com] (Mueller's testimony is applicable to hard times!)
[link to www.ccel.org]
[link to monergism.com]
[link to www.desiringgod.org] (Unbelievably good)
[link to www.gty.org]
[link to www.truthforlife.org]
[link to www.sovereigngraceministries.org]
[link to www.marshillchurch.org]
[link to arkhaven.org]
[link to arkwork.wordpress.com]

I used [link to www.httrack.com] to download these entire websites. Be sure to test your download after it's complete. See my comments at the bottom of the second page of this thread for how to use another alternative.
[link to www.greenstone.org]
[link to survivalblog.com]
[link to www.motherearthnews.com] (Be patient, very large)
[link to www.alpharubicon.com]
[link to www.thesurvivalistblog.net]
[link to backwoodshome.com]
[link to homestead.org]
[link to www.permies.com]
[link to www.richsoil.com]
[link to botanical.com]
[link to wings.interfree.it] (Currently down)
[link to www.h2ohow.com]
[link to akvo.org]
[link to www.eattheweeds.com]
[link to www.pagat.com] (Card games)
[link to www.uga.edu]
[link to www.craftandfabriclinks.com]
[link to www.caes.uga.edu]
[link to www.hollowtop.com]
[link to www.natureskills.com]
[link to www.braintan.com]
[link to www.foodsaving.com]
[link to chrismolloy.com] (Ten free bushcraft books)
[link to www.eaudrey.com]
[link to www.captaindaves.com]
[link to www.rainydayfoods.com]
[link to www.oism.org] (Not just for nuclear attack)
[link to www.wilderness-survival-skills.com]
[link to www.backwoodsliving.com]
[link to www.buildeazy.com]
[link to www.grandpappy.info]
[link to www.armourarchive.org]
[link to www.thehomegunsmith.com]
[link to wildwoodsurvival.com]
[link to www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com]
[link to www.florilegium.org]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.endtimesreport.com]
[link to www.desertdomes.com]
[link to www.survivaliq.com]
[link to www.practicalsurvivor.com]
[link to www.kstrom.net]
[link to www.radioreference.com]
[link to foragersharvest.com]
[link to vandwellers.org]
[link to earthbagbuilding.wordpress.com]
[link to homestead.org]
[link to themodernhomestead.us]
[link to solarcooking.org]
[link to solarcooking.wikia.com]
[link to www.homemadetools.net]
[link to www.bushcraftliving.com]
[link to survivalacres.com] (Useful info on the left)
[link to www.nowthatsnifty.com]
[link to www.m4040.com]
[link to www.poleshiftprep.com]
[link to shtfschool.com]
[link to ferfal.blogspot.com]
[link to www.themodernsurvivalist.com]


With this program, you can fetch YouTube videos. NOTE: Not everything on YouTube was shared with permission.
[link to download.cnet.com]


Here's some websites that don't fit into any category above. You can't really download them, they're just useful.
[link to allrecipes.com] (Bread starter recipes)
[link to www.primitiveskillslinks.com]
[link to www.khanacademy.org]
[link to www.make.com]


Since it's not possible to read every resource listed, one use is to create an offline homesteader's library with a Google-based search engine. Search for "Google Desktop." It's no longer available from Google but it's still out there on other sites for download. Let it build an index, and your local files are just a quick search away.


You probably will want to get deeper-dive or more modern books on these subjects:
* Permaculture, to work smarter, not harder (Recommended: Gaia's Garden, Edible Forest Gardens, Designing and Maintaining Your Edible Landscape Naturally, Permaculture: A Designer's Manual)
* Herbal healing (Recommended: The Medicinal Herb Grower, Encyclopedia of Herbal Medicine, The Herbal Medicine-Maker's Handbook)
* Buildings (Recommended: $50 Underground House)
* Seed saving, a surprisingly complicated process! (Recommended: Seed to Seed)
* Companion planting (Recommended: Carrots Love Tomatoes)
* Medicine (Recommended: Merck Manual Home Edition, PDR for Nonprescription Drugs, Dietary Supplements, and Herbs (check herbal interactions), Medicine for Mountaineering, Medicine for the Outdoors by Auderbach)
* Butchering animals (Recommended: Basic Butchering of Livestock & Game)


Of course there's no sense downloading if you're not going to read and practice Print the important stuff in case of power loss/EMP/theft/alien invasion. Here's some free info on how to bind books:
[link to www.aboutbookbinding.com]

And practice, practice, practice. Thieves cannot easily take your skills away.
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Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 1 Year, 1 Month ago Karma: 255
Thanks a lot Mertis! I'm just wondering how to best utilize the data.

I consider myself more motivated than the average person when it comes to "self-improvement". However, after all these years of "improving" (i.e. trying to improve) myself I have a good understanding of the self-improvement dynamic. Step #1 is always motivation.

People can think (on a philosophical level) that improving their mind/body/lifestyle is "a great idea"; but until they really want to pursue this they won't do anything.



I put myself in this same category. I've always thought that exercise/physical fitness was a great idea. But (over the years) the only time I've put those "good intentions" into practice was when I was highly motivated to do so. I'm saying this because for most people/most of the links; people will look at them TODAY and think "good idea" -- but do nothing more.



So perhaps what we need is a thread solely devoted to collecting all of these links as they come in; and then as we each (as individuals) 'discover' the motivation to delve into something further we'll have a reasonably convenient database to look through?

Unfortunately "bookmarks" alone are not the answer. In this case, there's simply too much here for us to each/all bookmark each potentially useful link. And for those (like myself) who have had their current system for a few years; you probably already have 100-200 bookmarks (more?) -- and the last thing you want to do is to even add one more.



So I'm going to start up one, last sticky-thread for the Off Topic section: our link-dump. This way, we can keep Surviving The Coming Collapse free for when we actually want to talk about particular sites/subjects -- and when someone just gets the urge to "post a link" (or a hundred - lol), there's one place for everything to go into.



I'll get the ball rolling and paste this over there myself...
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Re: Surviving the Coming Collapse. 1 Year, 1 Month ago Karma: 52
Just a quick update here.
I bought a used wood gasification boiler on ebay for $2700. They are normally $5500 & up.
I bought a 30 tube solar hot water maker for my roof ($2200), and an 80 gallon solar hot water tank brand new on Craigs list for $425. They are normally $1300.
I'm a cheapskate.
I'm building a 1000 gallon non pressurized water storage tank (heat battery) that will have copper heat exchange tubes for domestic hot water & baseboard heat.
I hope to use no oil at all when I'm done.
I now spend $4500 a year on heating oil & I have my system turned off most of the time. When I do turn the heat on, it's only for one zone out of the four I have, so that's $4500 a year to be cold.
I can provide links to anyone who wants them & you can start doing your own homework.

Earl put up a great post a while ago about the work of Chris Martenson, and the giant pyramid scheme that is rapidly approaching collapse.
So who is preparing for this collapse?

Your government, thats who.

Consider the endless borrowing & printing of money to prop up this Potemkin village society.
Consider the attacks on the good money, gold and silver, that accompany these coordinated Ponzi schemes.
Consider the bullshit we are being fed about the US becoming energy self sufficient.
Anyone who has done any serious reading about energy knows this is laughable to the point of crying.

Now consider this.
Near where I live, the National Guard is putting in a new base, over the feeble complaints of the local mayor.
It was advertised as a vehicle repair facility.
When I met some National Guardians at a street fair, where they were recruiting jobless college grads, I asked them if they were from that base.
"No sir, that base is still under construction", replied the leader.
"Oh", I said. "What is it for?".
"it's an armory, sir".

An armory?
In suburbia?
Really?

Would someone care to explain to me why an armory is needed in suburbia?

Near this soon to be completed armory, some bulldozers were brought in alongside the Interstate highway that passes by.
For several weeks they graded & shaped a six foot high, 100 foot long ramp that could hold a couple tractor trailers.
Then they put up a highway railing to block access to this ramp.
What's it for?

If I wanted to control that highway, I'd put a tank up there.

A bit further down the road, they brought in construction equipment & excavated a grassy area alongside the same highway at an exit ramp.
They built four foot earthen walls around the perimeter, and left one access point.
For what?

If I wanted to control that area, I'd put an APC in there.

Is anyone else seeing these things?

I know that the NG base in Kingston, NY has A-1 tanks.

What for?

So, in summary, if the government believes it needs to take steps to control civil unrest after a major collapse, shouldn't you?

Be well, be prepared, be vigilant.
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To the Community,

Not to take away from the "thread", but to answer a good question-

Is anyone else seeing these things?


I see "big" diary digging deep. They're buying every piece of land they can.
Eight inch wells 1/4 mile pivots. I've seen more "woods" cleared for agriculture in the last year than in the last DECADE. Many more wells for water.

The private prison just completed a 12.5 million dollar "upgrade".

So, what do you see ???

Be well, be prepared, be vigilant.


Many Thanks,
Earl
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bobbbny wrote:


...Now consider this.
Near where I live, the National Guard is putting in a new base, over the feeble complaints of the local mayor.
It was advertised as a vehicle repair facility.
When I met some National Guardians at a street fair, where they were recruiting jobless college grads, I asked them if they were from that base.
"No sir, that base is still under construction", replied the leader.
"Oh", I said. "What is it for?".
"it's an armory, sir".

An armory?
In suburbia?
Really?

Would someone care to explain to me why an armory is needed in suburbia?...




Definitely pause for concern. However, if it was me; I wouldn't start to get REALLY worried until construction starts on the local "private prison". There's not much likelihood of the U.S. government breaking out all those guns UNLESS/UNTIL they have somewhere to warehouse all the "trouble-makers"...permanently.

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