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#21817
Re: The Daily Grind... 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 262
It's Thursday January 31st, and the end of a very long, tiring month (for me at least). You KNOW Karma has you targeted for a little "tough love" when you get summoned for jury duty...on your birthday!!



Throw in the traditional January Cambridge resource conference here in Vancouver, and a few other miscellaneous duties to attend to, and I've been running about two days late all month long.



So, it's perhaps fitting that it's a(nother) very late edition of The Grind on this last day of the month. However, as I protested in an earlier post, I think I have a very good excuse: getting educated on a potential means of using bullion as "money"...today.

But I've already mentioned that elsewhere, and there was/is certainly enough "news" to discuss in the bullion market itself today. Yesterday, I pointed out the highly significant reason for yesterday's move higher in bullion prices -- "highly significant" because it was a reason (excuse) which the propaganda machine had used on many occasions for bullion prices going lower.

And while the banksters are generally not the "brightest bulbs on the tree"; even they could recognize the significance of bullion prices moving in the EXACT OPPOSITE DIRECTION in which they normally move when "bearish" economic news is announced.

So what do we see today in bullion markets? A vicious, all-out counter-attack on the market by the banksters. So desperate were they to get the Sheep to forget all about what happened yesterday (and nip any momentum in the bud) that they launched today's ambush without any PROPAGANDA COVER of any kind.

Go to Basher Central itself, and while they're the first to crow about how the price of gold was roughly $15 lower today, down below $1665 (and silver is back below $32.50) that they couldn't manufacture any excuse at all for the market reversing the bullish momentum of the previous day.

Again, this is highly significant/highly unusual; because tomorrow is the monthly U.S. Jobs Report Lie -- THE favorite day of any/every month for the banksters to launch their ambushes on bullion markets.

Why couldn't/wouldn't the banksters wait one more day before attempting to knock prices back down???

Obviously it would/will be easier to answer that question tomorrow, after the jobs report comes out (lol). However, part of putting my reputation on the line here on a daily basis (lol!) means not taking the easy way out -- and waiting until these questions answer themselves.

So, in advance of who-knows-what in tomorrow's U.S. jobs-lies; there would seem to be two probable reasons why the banksters had to launch a preemptive ambush on the market:

1) They were SO horrified by the move in prices yesterday (and momentum perhaps accelerating?) that they were unwilling to wait even one, more day for their favorite propaganda-cover to materialize.

2) Since the Banksters already know what's in tomorrow's report; they would already know if it's going to be bad news. Thus their REAL fear wasn't merely yesterday's move in metals prices, but rather the AMPLIFIED fear that yesterday's reaction to "bearish" economic news (with HIGHER prices) would immediately be reinforced by another leap higher -- on more bad news.

Even the dim-witted Sheep can begin to see a "pattern" were they to get two rapid-fire (and highly visible) examples...especially if prices had been allowed to strengthen further today.

Whatever the precise truth is, today's price action (once again) reeks of desperation on the part of the banksters. Remember that as the ones running all of the scams, and perpetuating the general market-fraud with precious metals that no one knows better than they how much "stress" the scams/fraud are currently under.

With the banksters exhibiting behavior best-exemplified by the proverbial "cornered rats"; they appear to be very, very afraid. It will be interesting to see what tomorrow's propaganda (and price-action) has in store for us...





Gold Ends Solidly Lower ahead of Key U.S. Jobs Report on Friday

www.kitco.com/reports/KitcoNews20130131JW_pm.html

Gold prices ended the U.S. day session sharply lower and gave back all of Thursday’s solid gains. The selling pressure Thursday could not be attributed to any major, single fundamental factor. However, it’s likely some end-of-the-month position squaring, profit taking from short-term traders, and pre-jobs-report positioning were responsible for the losses in the gold and silver markets Thursday [LOL!!!]...
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#21830
Re: The Daily Grind... 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 262
It's Friday, February 1st; and Fantasy Friday festivities continue here on The Grind. (Try saying that three times, very fast!)

Of course the "news" of the day is the monthly U.S. jobs report. The only thing we know in advance of these reports is that none of the numbers presented have any connection to the real world. Thus the only "suspense" is in seeing whether the lies would be larger or smaller than last month's lies -- and (for us) how bullion markets will react to the lies.

In fact, it's almost like the banksters themselves can't decide/agree upon how to present today's propaganda. And so (as you'll see below) we get some rare disagreement within the propaganda machine on whether today's lies are even "good news" or "bad news".

Bloomberg suggests it's once again time for Americans to "party like it's 1999." Kitco warns that todays numbers "shocked the market." In fact, the numbers are only slightly different from last month's lies (lol); although I'll argue that this means that the lies are getting significantly larger.

The U.S. government just announced that the U.S. economy "contracted" in the 4th quarter of 2012 -- i.e. the U.S. economy is now plummeting lower so rapidly that the U.S. government can no longer pretend the economy is "growing" -- yet we're supposed to believe this crippled economy produced even MORE new, net jobs in the month of January than the month before.

In fact, the January jobs report is THE biggest fantasy-number out of all the year's jobs reports, for reasons not too difficult to explain. Two things happen in January from a jobs "statistics" (i.e. jobs lies) standpoint.

1) The BLS makes a huge, preemptive "adjustment" in its "birth/death model" -- a total fraud which adds (on average) more than 1 million fantasy-jobs every year to the monthly reports. We KNOW these are fantasy jobs, because (every year) after the year is over the BLS retroactively (and quietly) subtracts the jobs from the lies it presented to the public.

2) After Christmas (naturally), U.S. retailers lay-off large numbers of temporary workers. The statisticians don't think it's "fair" to make the January jobs-report look so terrible (i.e. truthful), and so every year they make their largest (upward) "seasonal adjustment" in the final Lie they present.

Here's the hilarious part from the standpoint of these Liars. The more fantasy-jobs they invent in December, the larger the "seasonal adjustment" they are "justified" in making in January...and then they pile on another 100,000 jobs or so for good measure.



Today, we're being told that the U.S. economy "added" more than 150,000 jobs last month. In reality, it almost certainly lost well over 500,000; tempered somewhat if you want to make a seasonal adjustment. However, holiday hiring was very anemic this year (in line with falling sales); and so any legitimate seasonal adjustment would be a small one.

Conversely, perhaps feeling the need to inject some element of truthfulness; the unemployment rate in the U.S. edged up to 7.9% (when it's actually between 15% and 20%). Canada's numbers for January (i.e. our own Lies) will come out next week.

In bullion markets, price action is rather muted; either despite or because of the schizophrenia in how the mainstream media is reporting today's numbers. So, not to leave readers "hanging"; let me pick up where I left off by revisiting yesterday's question: why were the banksters so desperate to ambush the gold (and silver) market yesterday; rather than waiting for the "cover" of today's jobs report in order to "do their dirty work"? It could be because of an even deeper fear.

At the moment, gold is up over $8/oz and silver is up about 1.5%; despite the fact that "the market" itself can't even decide if today's news was "good" or "bad". In other words, bullion prices rose today totally independent of the daily news. Note that this in itself contradicts one of the most basic "themes" in the propaganda presented to us: that every day market traders (i.e. lemmings) will totally reverse directions if today's news is even slightly different than yesterday's news.

This in itself is horrifying enough to the propaganda machine: the thought that gold and silver will REVALUE themselves upward no matter whether the daily lies from the propaganda machine pretend that things are getting a little bit worse, or a little bit better.

However; there is yet one more, ultimate fear. If gold and silver could/can rise today, totally independent of the short-term spin from the propaganda machine; what if gold and silver prices went up -- not down -- when the banksters launched their traditional jobs-report ambush on bullion markets??? This would be clear demonstration of their IMPOTENCE -- i.e. confirmation that the market is now totally controlled by the Big Buyers.

For years prior to this; these monthly reports have been used as cover to HAMMER bullion markets lower -- often irrespective of whether the Lies were "good news" or "bad news". Yet today we see bullion markets docile and benign, like some fantasy "meadow" -- where happy little bunnies are free to frolick, without fear of immediately being devoured by ravenous Wolves.



The Times they are a Changing...




Dollar Falls as Increase in U.S. Payrolls Adds to Risk Appetite

www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-01/dollar...s-risk-appetite.html

The dollar slid to the weakest level since November 2011 versus the euro as data showed hiring in the U.S. rose in January after increasing more than previously estimated at the end of 2012, encouraging risk appetite.

The decline came two days after the Federal Reserve said it will keep buying bonds to help reduce unemployment, fueling concern the dollar is being debased. The greenback fell earlier against the euro after manufacturing in the 17-nation region shrank less than previously estimated. The yen sank to a 2 1/2 year low amid bets Prime Minister Shinzo Abe will select a new Bank of Japan (8301) governor who will boost monetary stimulus.

“It’s really a better-than-expected number,” Doug Borthwick, a managing director and head of foreign exchange at Chapdelaine FX in New York, said of the payrolls report in a telephone interview. “You have to look at the revision. This will be spun positively by the market...”



Gold Futures Stronger After Jobs Data Shows Rise In Unemployment Rate

www.kitco.com/reports/KitcoNews20130201AS.html

U.S. gold futures have risen sharply since the monthly U.S. jobs report showed the unemployment rate edged up in January when the market had been expecting a modest decline instead.

As of 9:31 a.m. EST, gold for April delivery was $19.10, or 1.2%, higher at $1,681.10 per ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange. March silver was up 70.9 cents, or 2.3%, to $32.06 an ounce.

Economists looked for the jobless rate to edge down to 7.7% from 7.8% last month.

“The jobs rate rose to 7.9%. That shocked the market,” said Afshin Nabavi, head of trading with MKS (Switzerland) SA. “Also, the euro is continuing to go higher and higher...”



[Editor's note: this is literally 180 degrees opposite to how Bloomberg has "interpreted" the same data.]
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#21881
Re: The Daily Grind... 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 262
It's Monday February 4th: a new month, but the same, old crap from the propaganda machine. I often talk about "controlling the message" and the whole psychological warfare game which the banksters play -- and for which they rely heavily upon the Corporate Media's 24/7 "megaphone".

I'll provide an illustrative example of this. As of this moment, the price of gold is up roughly $8/oz...



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...and as we see, the price rise began shortly after 9:00 am (EST). Now see this headline from the very same site which provided this headline:

Gold Weaker amid Bearish Outside Market Forces


Except that this was written and published at 8:20 am (EST), just before the price began to rise -- and at a point where prices were a TINY bit lower. It wouldn't matter if the price of gold was only down 10 cents an ounce at that point, all the propaganda machine wants is the EXCUSE to use the phrase "gold weaker".

Understand that the $2/oz decline "reported" by Basher Central is so close to zero (in percentage terms) that it is "statistically insignificant". In other words, no legitimate/competent media entity would look at this price-change and report that "gold was weaker" (i.e. lower).

The obvious/neutral/correct way to report such tiny changes is to say that prices "were basically flat" -- and they will do this, when reporting small RISES in price.

:laugh: :laugh:

But getting back to the propaganda-war in general, part of the assignment given to the Corporate Media is to continually plant fear/doubt/pessimism into the minds of all investors regarding gold and silver. Thus we frequently see these Liars engaging in the most absurd/outrageous speculation about a "price crash" in the gold or silver market -- simply to create a pretext to use the phrase "gold crash" or "silver crash".

Recall what our "education" systems program us to do: memorize and regurgitate simple labels. So the mainstream media continually feeds the Sheep vague fear-mongering like "silver bubble" or "gold crash", and they don't even care if their "reasons" are even semi-plausible. This is just brute-force brainwashing in action...and it works.

As I noted in a recent commentary, apart from the TINY segment of our population with significant holdings of bullion; the rest of the population holds roughly 1% as much bullion as at any other comparable point in time -- despite precious metals' 12-year bull market.

Now THAT is effective brainwashing!!

:ohmy:

Similarly, today when Kitco rushed-out its "Gold Weaker..." headline; they didn't care if their silly "reasons" were plausible. They didn't care if prices immediately began rising afterward (as in fact happened). They simply want to print the words "gold weaker" or "silver weaker" as often as possible on their site -- as presumably they are PAID to engage in such fear-mongering as often as possible.

Of course Jon Nadler personifies this. Neither he nor Kitco cares the slightest that virtually all educated bullion investors have nothing but scorn for what he writes. His "job" isn't to be credible, but merely to be another "pump" for the intellectual sewage being constantly directed at us.

As individuals, your best "defense" against such negative brainwashing is avoidance. You can't be hypnotized if you don't stare at the spiraling image planted in front of your eyes.

For me, things are a bit trickier. First, it's part of my analytical nature to STUDY what those with opposite viewpoints are saying -- in order to use it against them. However, this presumes an Opponent with at least a semi-credible position. And (of course) there is nothing even "semi-credible" about the nonsense which the mainstream media spews out on precious metals.

So I'm in something of a "no-win scenario". If I simply ignore all of the mainstream rubbish, then I allow it to be spewed at us UNCHALLENGED. For newer investors, or those who have been PROGRAMMED to view "gold bugs" with either suspicion or derision; ignoring mainstream propaganda can/is often interpreted as AVOIDING it.

Conversely, when I acknowledge/rebut the propaganda by explicit references; then I'm also doing the work of the propaganda machine: REPEATING their negative drivel (even though I also denounce it).

The best compromise I can offer (especially with respect to this daily dialogue) is to provide fairly regular examples of the fear-mongering/brainwashing in action (so that we never forget it's there) while not exposing our audience to so much of this negativity that I'm creating a brainwashing-effect.

Thus readers should avoid opening up these propaganda salvos, even as a mere expression of normal (healthy) curiosity. IF the propaganda machine had any credible arguments to make against owning/holding precious metals, we can be sure that they would have already bombarded us with them (about a million times) over the past 12 years.

So recognize what their agenda is, and simply tune them out...


;)


Gold Weaker amid Bearish Outside Market Forces

http://www.kitco.com/reports/KitcoNews20130204JW_am.html

Gold prices are modestly lower in early U.S. dealings Monday, as trading has turned choppy on the daily chart. The key “outside markets” are in a bearish posture for the precious metals markets early Monday, as the U.S. dollar index is higher and crude oil prices are lower. April gold last traded down $4.60 at $1,666.00 an ounce. Spot gold was last quoted down $2.10 at $1,666.00...
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#21899
Re: The Daily Grind... 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 262
It's Tuesday February 5th, and the gold/silver yo-yo seems to be more or less "stuck" today -- as prices aren't doing much in either direction...and so I'm going to talk about the platinum market today.

It was only a few weeks ago that I wrote a commentary pointing out how the platinum market was somewhat less-manipulated than the silver market; with the result that this market actually RESPONDS to supply/demand fundamentals with the price-changes which take place.

However, here we ALSO get a good example of how the Oligarchs can use these "fundamentals" to their own advantage. A Bloomberg headline today shouts:

Platinum Supply Falls to 13-Year Low as Mines Close...

...and (as regular readers know) what comes with falling supply? That's right: higher prices.

Now here is where things get interesting. Back when I wrote this article a mere three weeks ago, platinum prices were weak; and I just quoted a detailed mining article noting that supplies were ABUNDANT. In other words, there was little prospect for any price-gains in the near future.

And then -- very conveniently -- the miners went on strike at a couple of the world's largest platinum mines in South Africa. Much of the world's supply ground to a halt, the mine's workers were on an "unpaid leave of abscence" (via the strike) -- and the over-supply in the platinum market was quickly eaten up.

With platinum prices having risen significantly, and inventories having shrunk; these mine-strikes were literally the BEST THING that could have happened for the Oligarch-owners of these platinum mines.

Now let's add one more ingredient to this picture. Suppose you're a slave-driving Oligarch already facing massive class-action suits over your inhumane working conditions. How difficult would it be to PROVOKE your slaves into striking (i.e. an unpaid leave of absence) in order to drive-up prices???

For those who think this goes a little too far down the road of "conspiracy theories"; we quite often see these "coincidental" mine-strikes occurring (in various metals markets) any time we see a build-up of inventories.

So while it is nice to at least be able to discuss a market which responds to supply/demand fundamentals; we can't forget that even those "fundamentals" can be manipulated by the Oligarchs.



P.S. Note how one of the Miners hit with strikes has swung from a large operating LOSS to a solid profit. And note how another Miner simply closed-down part of its operation. In every way, this is an artificial "supply crisis".


Platinum Supply Falls to 13-Year Low as Mines Close: Commodities

www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-05/platin...ose-commodities.html

Platinum supplies are falling to a 13-year low as mines in South Africa, the world’s biggest producer, close and automobile sales reach new highs.

Production will drop 2.7 percent to 5.68 million ounces, the least since 2000,
according to Barclays Plc, which raised its 2013 shortage estimate sixfold last month after Johannesburg-based Anglo American Platinum Ltd. (AMS) said it plans to idle shafts. At the same time, demand from carmakers, the biggest consumer of the metal, will increase 0.5 percent in 2013, Barclays says. Investors are buying platinum at the fastest pace in three years...

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#21910
Re: The Daily Grind... 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 262
It's Wednesday February 6th; and once again gold and silver prices are doing little. The price of silver is basically flat (a little under $32/oz), while the price of gold is up a few dollars over $1670 -- basically just reversing what the two metals did yesterday.

Looking back on recent additions of The Grind; it seems I've been "spoiling" people around here lately -- with LONG (inspired?) analyses...something I cannot possibly maintain over the long-term (lol).

So today I'm doing us all a favor. I'm booking-out early; in order to avoid you all developing unrealisitic expectations, and me facing "unrealistic demands."



I'll see you all here tomorrow, same time/same place; and for those wanting something to "sink their teeth into", I offer today's commentary -- loaded with copious amounts of my blood, sweat, and tears.

I'm speaking metaphorically of course, since no one wants to read a soggy, stinky, commentary...




U.S. Launches Revenge-Attack Against S&P
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Re: The Daily Grind... 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 262
It's Thursday February 7th, and (once again) "all's quiet on the Western Front" (lol). Today, it's gold which is flat-to-slightly-higher; while silver has inched a tiny bit lower.

With nothing of interest happening in the short-term price action; I'm going to spend a little time dealing with (yet) another propaganda topic with which the propaganda machine is struggling. Understand the basic problem facing all serial-liars when you tell LOTS of lies: quite quickly the lies begin contradicting each other.

To illustrate this, let me first refer to a news item posted at Basher Central yesterday:

Commerzbank: Chinese Gold Demand Filling Gap Left By India.

First, what was the purpose of Kitco printing this (apparently) somewhat "bullish" news item? Only a couple of days earlier there was news about China's gold imports continuing to explode higher:

www.bullionbullscanada.com/bulletin-boar...-still-soaring#21908

Thus the "mission" assigned to the Liars at Basher Central was to take that UNEQUIVOCAL "good news" and to qualify it with some "bad news". And so we get the negative slant on that good news from Kitco:

China's increasing demand is only compensating for LOST DEMAND from India.



...and here is where the Liars begin contradicting themselves. Because (as readers here have been reading for weeks), the SAME propaganda machine has been warning of a "currency crisis" in India. What currency crisis? India has a huge "gold deficit", as Indians continue DUMPING their paper for bullion at a high rate.

This means when we sift through ALL the propaganda there is only a couple of way to rationalize ALL of the lying -- and thus extract the truth:

a) India's gold imports have fallen, but DESPITE that declining level gold import levels are STILL at a "crisis level" in the eyes of the Western banking cabal. OR;

b) The REPORTS of India's gold demand "falling" are lies, and both China and India are gobbling up gold at a tremendous rate.

I'm certainly open to other readers amalgamating these facts and producing their own conclusions; however to me these are the only two possible interpretations of the facts.

In Scenario "A", if India's gold demand spikes to previous levels (with Chinese demand still rabid) this could easily lead to a bullion "supply crisis" in the gold market rather than the silver market.

In Scenario "B", we would ALREADY be in that crisis scenario -- with the propaganda machine simply covering up this emerging "crisis" with more of its lies.

Just as the lies of the propagnda machine lead to an inevitable "propaganda train-wreck", where the Liars become permanently discredited; so too we appear headed for an equally inevitable "supply/demand train-wreck" in bullion markets.

This is why I continue to say to readers: do not interpret the narrow range of bullion prices as indicating "greater control" on the part of the Banking Cabal. Because every glimpse of the Truth we can get between all of the lies indicates that their ability to control these markets is rapidly EVAPORATING -- making them "grip" the market even tighter.

Because once they lose their grip this time, the next spike will likely shock even the most-experienced commentators/investors in this sector...




Commerzbank: Chinese Gold Demand Filling Gap Left By India

www.kitco.com/reports/kitcoNewsMarketNuggets20130206.html

Strong Chinese gold demand appears making up for lost consumption in India, says Commerzbank. Analysts cite data earlier this week from Hong Kong's Census and Statistics Department showing China imported record quantities of gold from Hong Kong in December. "Year on year, imports were up to 114.4 tons, almost trebling," Commerzbank says...

Chinese gold-imports still soaring

www.bullionbullscanada.com/bulletin-boar...-still-soaring#21908

Thanks to BigDad06 for passing along this link/news, since it managed to 'slip past me' (lol) with all the other things I've had on my plate in recent weeks.

Again, ZeroHedge is the source here, so kudos to them for keeping their calculators handy; and cranking out some total numbers for China's gold imports for 2012.

The bottom-line?

834 TONS of gold imported in China in 2012 (double the 2011 total)
114 TONS imported in December alone

...and if those numbers alone don't paint a clear enough picture, ZeroHedge puts it in picture form:...



Now note this additional news item:


Indian Rupee Recovering So Far In 2013; Gold Market Keeping Tabs

www.kitco.com/reports/KitcoNews20130207AS_focus.html


What is the significance of this? If India's currency appreciates in value this means that gold gets "cheaper" for Indian buyers. And we all know what happens when gold gets CHEAPER for the gold-hungry, value-conscious Indian buyer...


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What do we suppose Kitco's motive is in supplying a perpetual wet blanket for the bullion market? How can this possibly benefit them? I have always wondered this, particularly while the basher-in-chief (initials J.N.) was still there. The only thing I can come up with is that they see great value in appearing measured and "objective" so as to enhance their credibility and avoid being seen as engaging in a pump and dump scheme. In other words, the thinking goes as follows: "Kitco must be credible and trustworthy because they don't try too hard to peddle their wares." Does anyone have any further thoughts on this?
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I appreciate that you frequently deconstruct the propaganda that is directed towards precious metals. Beyond the obvious concrete benefit of illuminating any particular instance of it, you are teaching me to recognize it and dismiss it in the broad sense, i.e., in other contexts as well. Thank you for this effort. It both builds my confidence and sharpens my thinking skills.
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agau121 wrote:
What do we suppose Kitco's motive is in supplying a perpetual wet blanket for the bullion market? How can this possibly benefit them? I have always wondered this, particularly while the basher-in-chief (initials J.N.) was still there. The only thing I can come up with is that they see great value in appearing measured and "objective" so as to enhance their credibility and avoid being seen as engaging in a pump and dump scheme. In other words, the thinking goes as follows: "Kitco must be credible and trustworthy because they don't try too hard to peddle their wares." Does anyone have any further thoughts on this?

AgAu, there are a couple of reasons why I can only supply speculation here. First of all (lacking any "bugging" apparatus - lol), we can never know what is being said behind closed doors, regarding Kitco's business model (and objectives). Also, unlike some of the ORIGINAL commentators in this sector who were around a decade ago (and longer); I'm somewhat more recent in covering this sector.

We know that going back a decade(and more); just as with the miners there was no chance of these bullion businesses prospering from RISING bullion prices. We know what happened with the large miners: they made their Deal With The Devil.

They let the bankers into their boardrooms. Accepted the MASSIVE "hedging" (i.e. forward-selling) the banksters wanted them to do -- to flood the market with even more bullion -- and in return the banksters made sure that the (remaining) miners were able to survive.

It seems very plausible that going back to that same period that Kitco made its OWN Deal With The Devil. The difference being that while the miners had agree to massive hedging-contracts in order for the banksters to cease targeting them for destruction; perhaps the "price tag" for the banksters allowing Kitco to thrive as a bullion dealer was to agree to be their principal mouthpiece within the precious metals sector?

Obviously no RATIONAL bullion-dealer would ever want to relentlessly bash their own sector (and business) in the manner made famous by Kitco. So we know there must be some other "quid pro quo" to get them to sabotage their own business in this manner -- we just have no way (at this time) to say precisely what that motive is...

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Re: The Daily Grind... 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 75
This is a perspective I had not considered. Thank you for articulating it.

In an audio interview from May 2009, conducted by the online news network that dare not speak its name on this forum [ ], Jon Nadler said that it was a myth that the public had stopped buying bullion during the decades of the 80s and 90s. In the interview he says that over the last few decades the public has in fact continued to buy bullion and had never stopped. If I remember the details correctly, he goes on to make the point that because the public had never, at that point in time in May 2009, stopped buying bullion, the demand for bullion had not really increased much.

With this in mind, and assuming that it is accurate, it seems plausible to me that at least some bullion dealers could have continued doing business. I’m just speculating here. I don’t understand the economic details of how bullion dealers operate, so I could be mistaken in my reasoning.

Interestingly, and at least somewhat ironically, in the same interview from May of 2009, Mr. Nadler states emphatically that WE ARE NOT IN A BULL MARKET for gold. At the time, as best as I can determine, gold was trading between $950 and $980. Mr. Nadler went on to say that he believed that the price had essentially peaked at that point. Of course I’m paraphrasing him, so I might be mistaken on some of the fine points, but I’m confident that I have the overall meaning of his words correct.

NOTE: The audio file of the interview in question can be found in the archives subsection of the "Broadcast" section of the online news network referenced. Containing at least a touch of irony, it offers an illuminating historical perspective involving relatively recent events. It brought a few grins to my face when I heard it.
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