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Jeff Nielson wrote:
With respect to your remark that the One Bank "doesn't care" about U.S. Treasuries (or the equally fraudulent U.S.) dollar, this is simply much too hyperbolic. That paper is the only "power" it possesses. When the paper goes to zero (as it must); the banksters will lose the capacity to continue to buy-off regimes and our (so-called) regulators.
Ah, but you misread me, or perhaps it was my lack of clarity. I meant that China only cares about the gold. Of course the One Bank cares about its US Treasuries. It's the fiat currencies which have allowed them to replace wealth in the hands of the masses with paper, and squirrel away gold for their own storage and use.

China, on the other hand is the antithesis of this, as is Russia, India and various others associated with the BRIICS. Where the West only cares about the US Treasuries the BRIICS want rid of them and to use gold instead. Their only purpose in holding US Treasuries at this point is to be able to play on the same field as the West and to take their marbles and go home at a time of their choosing.
08:59 PM
robinsld, Jeff Nielson replied to the topic Re: Time to buy (last CHANCE to buy?) in the forums.
Indeed. Clearly the illusion has to be maintained to the bitter end.

I'm seeing eerie parallels between the April 2013 take down and this one. Clearly, there's not much left in it this time around because most of the damage was already done the first time. However, this is a concerted effort by the Bullion Banks, including the Vampire Bank, to drive the price lower. They will of course profit immensely on the paper markets for whatever that's worth. And they will be in there accepting the counter trade for all the shorts they're encouraging, revealing yet again their true motives.

There will still be some physical to had from this, but I doubt it will be enough to satisfy the big buyers who wish to take physical delivery. I'm expecting this action to continue until it simply fails. At that point, all the naked shorts in the world will be no match for the rebound I think we're expecting. How low this can go in the meantime, however, is anyone's guess.
08:51 PM
What we have here is essentially confirmation of what was reported in a previous post. Turkey is now a member of the fascist "NATO" alliance in name only. It has essentially rejected the West's (i.e. the U.S.'s) serial war crimes -- primarily against Muslim nations. And it thus effectively "abstains" from all of NATO's acts of military aggression.

This leaves the U.S./NATO with a choice. It can allow Turkey to remain within NATO while it refuses to participate (or allow its territory to be used as a base) in NATO's crimes-against-humanity. Or, it can formally expel Turkey, in which case it would take about 10 seconds for Turkey to announce it was formally allying with Russia, China, or both.

The Fascists have not only alienated all of the non-aligned nations in the world, but they are now seeing drop-outs from within their so-called "alliances" -- as these other (former) "allies" now cannot stomach being associated with this ultra-belligerent bloc.

Turkey refuses US permission for combat missions against ISIS: official


Agence France Presse

ANKARA: Turkey will refuse to allow a US-led coalition to attack jihadists in neighbouring Iraq and Syria from its air bases, nor will it take part in combat operations against militants, a government official told AFP Thursday.

" Turkey will not be involved in any armed operation but will entirely concentrate on humanitarian operations," the official said on condition of anonymity.

The decision echoes the country's refusal to allow the US to station 60,000 troops in Turkey in 2003 to invade Iraq from the north, which triggered a crisis between the two allies.

Ankara then also refused Washington permission to use its air bases to attack Saddam Hussein's regime.

Turkey has come under fire by some critics for indirectly encouraging the formation of ISIS because of its support of Islamist opponents of Syrian President Bashar Assad, and its loose control of its borders.

But Ankara vehemently denies its strategy has backfired.

US Secretary of State John Kerry was to hold talks in Saudi Arabia on Thursday to drum up support from 10 key Arab nations and Turkey, after President Barack Obama announced Washington's new strategy against ISIS jihadists, which will include air strikes in Syria.

After a lightning advance, ISIS militants now control swathes of Iraq and much of northern Syria along the Turkish border...
11:23 AM
2 days ago
robinsld replied to the topic Re: Time to buy (last CHANCE to buy?) in the forums.
Further to this and in line with another post of mine on another thread, I see the current smash continuing until it can no longer be driven further down because of buyers at the lower prices. Also, if I'm right that this is a last ditch effort to shake loose some more gold to send to the likes of China, the prices will go LOWER first, perhaps a lot lower. At that point will be the time to buy, when the prices seem to bottom out and start to pull up. I don't believe at that point that there will be long to wait for the prices to rebound, however, so the window to buy may be short...
09:19 PM
robinsld replied to the topic Re: Manipulation of Gold / Silver Ends This Year in the forums.
My view is that the Fed and its cronies will CONTINUE to manipulate gold (and silver) down until they no longer can. The big players make their money by pushing gold and silver UP as well as down, reaping in the profits with moves in both directions because they initiate the moves. When the market is high, they smash it will shorts and rake in the profits, when the market is low, the pile on longs and drive it up, then sell higher and again, rake in the profits while piling on new shorts. It's a complete scam.

The only things that are going to stop this are failure of the mechanism due to physical default, which in itself will mean nothing to the paper markets - they would go on trading in virtual gold forever, if it weren't for what comes next, that being someone the likes of China not receiving their physical delivery, at which point they will start dumping their US Treasuries for whatever gold they can get at any price.

They only care about the gold. The US Treasuries are already worthless to them except for being able to use them to buy gold at any price, and thereby bid that price up. Exactly when this happens is anyone's guess. If Mr. Organ is right and there is no gold to be had anywhere, it could be imminent. In fact it's my belief that the current smash on gold is a repeat of the April 2013 takedown, with the view to shaking loose some gold to send to the likes of China. If that's the case, this could be a last ditch effort...
09:15 PM
3 days ago
robinsld replied to the topic Re: Time to buy (last CHANCE to buy?) in the forums.

My feeling is that it would be best to buy 1oz, 2oz and 10oz coins as the largest size in silver and 1/2oz as the largest size in gold. When this thing finally takes off, we won't want to have anything large or the prices of them will be ridiculous.

09:27 PM
Jeff Nielson created a new topic Time to buy (last CHANCE to buy?) in the forums.
I know this sounds like a "recorded message" (lol), since our "buying opportunity" has now lasted 3 years and counting.

The point in doing this post today is not to simply make note that the price of gold and silver has now descended to simply silly numbers. In real dollars (with gold currently at $1230, and silver at $18.50); gold and silver are practically as cheap today as they were back in 2000. Put another way, think about the prices you paid for basic food items 14 years ago, versus the exorbitant food prices of today (expressed in our worthless paper).

But the real point here is available supply. In late-2008/early-2009; we got our first taste of what could/would happen when bullion prices reached "silly" levels. There was no silver to be found (at the phony, official price) anywhere, except for those willing to purchase it in 200-ounce bars.

While smaller investors could purchase a small number of such bars for themselves, the reality is (and was, back in 2008/09) that we don't want silver in such an unwieldy and difficult to sell/spend form. When things fall apart; we want silver we can use in commerce -- 1-oz units, or bars containing a relatively small number of ounces.

With prices once again silly, with demand having been so strong for so long, and with Asian demand certain to spike again (at these give-away prices); I strongly suspect we are headed for another inventory-drought, where there is basically no metal to be had.

Even with the large (phony) "premiums" which dealers tack onto their prices; they must all be losing money at these prices -- once their FULL distribution costs are factored into the numbers. Thus even if dealers still have metal, at some point they will simply TELL people they are "out of inventory", because they won't continue to sell for a loss.

The alternative would be Decoupling: dealers simply setting their own prices, based on their real-world cost of obtaining gold/silver, plus a reasonable margin to cover distribution costs (and a small profit margin). Of course if we have Decoupling, that would almost certainly mean higher real-world prices for gold and silver than what we see today.

So from my perspective this is basically a now-or-never moment, for those who still have a little capital available, and were waiting for the "best possible price".

10:29 AM
Thanks for the post, Debsyl.

On the one hand; there's not too much to be said about a clip of this nature. While Harvey Organ does produce some numbers, all those numbers actually prove is that these markets must implode "some day". Given how fraudulent this market has been, and given how many years it has been this fraudulent; it's clearly speculative to conclude something will happen "this year".

On the other hand; what Organ has done here is not too much different than what I've done myself. At the beginning of the year (in "Silver Bells"); I wrote that either 2014 or 2015 would be "the year of silver". Then later this year, I followed that up by "predicting" some game-changing event for both gold and silver "in the next 12-24 months".

So really the only difference between what Organ has said here and what I've written myself is that I said these things a little sooner -- but gave myself a little more wiggle-room (lol) than Mr. Organ.

To get into specifics; Organ's position that the game ends "this year" is based on his conclusion that there were 28,000 tonnes of gold (in the world) in 1998, and based on reported demand since then, that gold will run out this year.

However, as I understand Organ, I don't think his calculation includes the scrap gold which returns to the market -- and has averaged about 1,000 tonnes per year (according to the latest WGC numbers) since that time. That would add an extra 16,000 tonnes, and totally throw off Organ's calculation.

But there are several variables here:

1) The WGC could be (and almost certainly is) lying about how much scrap gold has come onto the market.
2) OTHER gold could have been scavenged by the Oligarchs. There are 10's of thousands of tonnes of 'historical' gold all over the world. Much of that is in the form of priceless artifacts -- and would/will likely never return to the market. But some of this gold could have been sold/looted.
3) Demand could be (and almost certainly is) much higher than what the WGC (and other banker-controlled entities) has been reporting, thus this would also skew Organ's calculation.

With these unknowns going in both directions, Organ certainly could be right. I just don't think it's possible to state conclusions this definitively -- in a market (and world) this falsified/fraudulent.
10:10 AM
4 days ago
debsyl created a new topic Manipulation of Gold / Silver Ends This Year in the forums.
Manipulation of Gold and Silver Definitely Ends This Year-Harvey Organ

By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com

Harvey Organ has been on a personal mission to expose the “fraudulent manipulation” of the gold and silver markets since the late 1990’s. Organ, who studies these markets daily, contends, “It’s definitely going to happen this year.” Why does Organ think this? Let’s start with the gold market. Organ says, “You are seeing a huge amount of obligations per one ounce of gold that’s available, and as the gold moves from West to East, and the bubble of paper obligations that’s left are going to blow up. So, that is what we are basically seeing in gold. There is a massive movement basically towards three countries . . . Russia . . . China . . . and India. So, if you figure the world produces no more than 2,200 tons of gold per year, excluding China and Russia, more than 100% of that gold is going to those countries.” Organ goes on to say, “I doubt very much if the United States has one ounce of gold left.”

09:39 PM
Sean thought it would be a good idea to look back on "9/11", the false-flag event staged by the Old World Order -- which (literally) changed the world (for the worse). And myself and Chris Duane were fortunate to be invited as his guests.

While there aren't a lot of minds being "freed" lately (from the Wonderland Matrix), one thing which just might open some eyes is to look back on the biggest, most-outrageous, and most-absurd of all the Big Lies foisted upon us by our Puppet Governments.

We covered a lot of ground with this chat, thus even those who have followed History's greatest hoax in detail will likely discover details of which they were previously unaware. Something which I didn't know (prior to our chat) was that back in 9/11 Chris Duane was a loyal soldier in the U.S. military -- chomping on the bit for some "revenge".

His own awakening didn't occur until a few years later -- but he's certainly been making up for lost time since then...

9/11: AMERICA’S REICHSTAG — Why The TRUTH Is More Important Than Ever


09:29 AM
5 days ago
DayOwl wrote:
They don't demonstrate, they riot.

Exactly. And this is part of the problem.

What is the difference between "protesting" and "rioting"? Almost precisely the same difference between an "economic slow-down" (i.e. recession) versus an economic collapse: hysteria increases exponentially, and RATIONALITY decreases exponentially.

How many people were thinking clearly in our societies during the Crash of '08? I had a very difficult time doing so, and I actually understood what was going on at that time.

What happens when large numbers of people start rioting? Like any "mob"; they're looking at someone/something to blame (while, simultaneously, nearly all rational thought has ceased). And which Scapegoat will our lying/corrupt governments trot-out when the Serfs start to riot?

Will they blame the Bankers? Lol !!!
Will they blame themselves? Lol !!!

Will they blame "terrorists"?
Will they blame "illegal aliens"?
Or will they invent some new Boogeyman?

Understand that (everything else in the Wonderland Matrix) it's not necessary that the Scapegoat they produce have any rational connection at all to our economic destruction. The Serfs accept any lie fed to them (without thinking) today, no matter how perverse/ridiculous/impossible -- and they aren't even in a panic yet.

There was LOTS of rioting in Germany too (and all economically motivated) right before Hitler rose to power, and the Third Reich began its rampage. And we already have plenty of "Hitlers" around the Western world (Obama, Merkel, Harper, etc) just waiting for the Bankers to tell them to "mobilize".

These Psychopaths THRIVE on "crises" -- since they create virtually all of them (directly or indirectly).

This is why I have worked so hard on this site for the past 5 1/2 years. This is why I (and many others) are presently experiencing so much frustration. We are trying to motivate people to PROTEST -- i.e. to confront out lying/traitorous governments in a rational, thoughtful manner.

Conversely, once our Serf-societies descend to rioting there is NO HOPE for improvement. Things can only get much, much worse before they ever get better. "Waiting for the riots" is not a strategy-for-success -- for any of us. Rather, it is a concession of failure...

03:04 PM
Jeff Nielson created a new topic List of U.S./Canada "detention facilities" in the forums.
This comes to me (once again) from frequent correspondent/BBC supporter Andy Sloan. And, according to the writer of this piece, these "detention facilities" all already have all the "equipment" necessary to operate Third Reich-style concentration camps.

Not a big surprise that this would be high on the agenda of the Fourth Reich...

Note: this piece also contains a "greatest hits" collection of recent EXECUTIVE ORDERS from the Bush and Obama tag-team. Very revealing.

Why Does The US Government Need 30,000 Guillotines And Over 600 Million Rounds Of Hollow Point Bullets?


There are over 800 prison camps in the United States. All fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards. But they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general’s signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on THE list.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons. Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation...
02:47 PM
Jeff Nielson created a new topic U.S. Government own 30,000 GUILLOTINES ?? in the forums.
While there is no independent corroboration for the claim made in the piece below, there certainly is specificity:

Conspiracy “theories” about relocation, soft kills and death camps are distorting what is behind all of the camps and accessories: money–billions of dollars in supply contracts. It’s always about money: creating a perceived need for a product, then providing the justification to charge through the gills for it.

Disaster supply companies have reportedly provided FEMA with: 30,000 French made guillotines, 500-800,000 plastic coffins, crematoria, etc...

While I don't normally post materials this speculative (i.e. unsubstantiated), there is a reason for deviating from that policy here: to make a point.

Assuming that the (supposed) "ISIS beheadings" are not purely creations of (Western) "special effects"; who would most likely be the EMPLOYERS of the masked individuals carrying out such atrocities? According to basic probability-and-statistics; it would most likely be the entity which OWNED more guillotines (by far) than anyone else on the planet...

FEMA Generating Trillion Dollar Profits: 800,000 FEMA Coffins, 30,000 Guillotines And The “Soft Kill” Profit Machine

02:38 PM
Survey Exposes Massive Copper Deposit

Sept 10, 2014


12:38 PM
I just wanted to mention a new addition to our "Guest Commentaries", since that section has been dormant for a while. I published this piece myself, so apologies (in advance) for any "rough edges" with respect to the formatting of this piece...

The Price Of Gold And The Art Of War; Part I
11:31 AM
6 days ago
DayOwl replied to the topic Re: Jeff Nielson, for Sprott Money: in the forums.
Good article as always, Jeff.

The disconnect between banksters and the "little people" jumped out at me here.
When through the process of law, the common people have lost their homes they will be more tractable and easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of government applied to a central power of imperial wealth under the control of the leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders.
When people are homeless, or on the verge of becoming homeless, they are probably far less tractable than folks who are confidently within their homes. The people the banksters need to worry about the most are the ones who have nothing to lose. These people aren't cowed, they're angry.

Arrogance will be the banksters' downfall, as you often point out.
01:03 PM
1 week ago
Jeff Nielson replied to the topic The Bankers' Manifesto of 1892 (Sprott Money) in the forums.
I've been wanting to write an updated version of the article I originally published here over 5 years ago (one of the first pieces I ever published)...

"The Bankers Manifesto of 1892"

There are/were two obvious reasons for wanting to do an updated version. First of all (hopefully) I'm a much better writer than I was back then -- and this is a topic which deserves high-quality coverage. Secondly, we've all had five more years to WATCH "the Manifesto" unfold before our eyes.

The Bankers’ Manifesto of 1892


Charles Lindbergh Sr. (1859–1924) was a distinguished U.S. politician. In our (dubious) “history books”, however, it is the exploits of his son, Charles Lindbergh Jr. (the famed “aviator”) which are remembered. A closer scrutiny of the career of the father leaves little doubt who was the real “hero” in this family.

Lindbergh Sr. served as a Congressman in the Republican Party from 1907 -1917. During that time; he was one of the most vehement and outspoken members of the U.S. government against the creation of the Federal Reserve, and the rapidly growing influence/power of the Old World Order banking cabal whom we know today as the One Bank...
Sep 08
Jeff Nielson replied to the topic Re: Jeff Nielson, for Sprott Money in the forums.
U.S. Judge Eliminates Distinction Between Government and Corporations


The perversion of the Rule of Law in (corrupt) Western jurisdictions continues. As it has been all along; the United States (and its own government) is the epicenter of this corruption. Increasingly, these criminal entities (sovereign and non-sovereign alike) simply no longer care how their lawless acts are perceived by the slack-jawed masses.

Yet even in our lawless societies, a recent ruling in one of the United States’ kangaroo courts stands out as especially perverse. In a decision made public yesterday; Manhattan District Court Judge, Katherine Forrest granted the London Metal Exchange Ltd immunity from prosecution in the gangster-racketeering which has been taking place in international metals markets (centered in the U.S. and UK). In doing so; she has simply erased the legal distinction between government and (large) corporations...
Sep 04
Jeff Nielson replied to the topic Re: Dow Reaches New High in the forums.
Lol DayOwl!

Given the title to your post; I was wondering if this post should be moved to our "Famous Last Words" thread.

No shortage of silliness/surreality here. For me; the peak of the insanity was this excerpt:

The ECB lowered its benchmark interest rate to 0.05 percent, and cut its deposit facility to minus 0.2 percent.

The central bank's "non-conventional methods of easing credit will hopefully boost inflation and reverse the deflationary scenario," said Peter Cardillo, chief market economist at Rockwell Global Capital.

"This is certainly a step in the right direction and should put more liquidity into the system," Cardillo said...

With a hundred times as much "liquidity in the system" (i.e. funny-money in circulation) as compared to any other time in our history; will we ever get one of these charlatans to say that "enough is enough"?

If adding ten times as much liquidity to the system as at any other time in history only made problems WORSE; it would be nice if one of the charlatans even attempted to explain how adding a hundred times as much liquidity can/could "fix things"...???

The "definition of insanity": continuing to do the same thing over and over again -- but expecting a different result.

The definition of a "politician" (or economist): someone who not only repeats policies which have already failed, but engages in (exponentially) more and more of these same, failed policies.

Or, for those who would like a more expanded version of this thinking; we have an older commentary to view:

Insanity Cubed

P.S. I think it's also a good idea to remind readers of one other commentary -- as we see these NEW bubble-highs in U.S. equity markets:

New Bubble-Highs In U.S. Markets Prove No Tapering

...and then we can't forget this factoid, even though all of the braindead zombies of the mainstream media (such as the writer of this piece) clearly have:

Buffett Sits on $50 Billion Cash-Hoard, Waiting for Bubbles to Pop

No one would like to see any REAL "tapering" more than Warren Buffet -- because about one millisecond after that tapering took effect we would hear a loud "kaboom" as all of the U.S.'s mega-bubbles simultaneously imploded. And then (after giving a few weeks for our economies to turn into rubble) Buffet the Vampire-Layer could put his $50+ BILLION to use.

Sep 04
DayOwl created a new topic Dow Reaches New High in the forums.
Amazing how the article glosses over the "asset-backed securities" bailout that's being announced here. How much longer can the central banks keep buying the unsaleable?

Dow, S&P 500 topple records after US data, ECB moves
Kate Gibson

U.S. stocks rose on Thursday, lifting the Dow and S&P 500 to records, after the European Central Bank unexpectedly reduced its key rate and announced plans to purchase asset-backed securities to spur economic growth.

"The broad tone is bullish following the surprise move out of the ECB," emailed Andrew Wilkinson, chief market analyst at Interactive Brokers.

The ECB lowered its benchmark interest rate to 0.05 percent, and cut its deposit facility to minus 0.2 percent.

The central bank's "non-conventional methods of easing credit will hopefully boost inflation and reverse the deflationary scenario," said Peter Cardillo, chief market economist at Rockwell Global Capital.

"This is certainly a step in the right direction and should put more liquidity into the system," Cardillo said.

Symbol Name Price Change %Change

DJIA Dow Jones Industrial Average 17127.6 49.38 0.29%

S&P 500 S&P 500 Index 2007.20 6.48 0.32%

NASDAQ Nasdaq Composite Index 4591.60 19.03 0.42%

Topping its all-time high set Aug. 26, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was lately up 73.18 points, or 0.4 percent, at 17,151.46, with UnitedHealth Group pacing blue-chip gains that extended to 25 of 30 components.

Also extending its record run, the S&P 500 advanced to an all-time high of 2,011.00, and was recently at 2,009.25, up 8.53 points, or 0.4 percent, with consumer discretionary the best performer and utilities the greatest laggard among its 10 major industry groups.

PVH rallied after the owner of the Tommy Hilfiger and Calvin Klein brands reported second-quarter earnings that beat estimates.

Shares of BP fell sharply after a federal judge ruled the company had acted with gross negligence in the 2010 oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico that killed 11 people.

The Nasdaq rose 25.96 points, or 0.6 percent, to 4,598.43

The CBOE Volatility Index, a measure of investor uncertainty, fell 3.5 percent to 11.93 percent.

For every five shares falling, roughly nine rose on the New York Stock Exchange, where 171 million shares traded as of 11:10 a.m. Eastern. Composite volume approached 913 million.
Trader Frank O'Connell reacts on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange August 26, 2014.
Brendan McDermid | Reuters
Trader Frank O'Connell reacts on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange August 26, 2014.

The dollar gained against other global currencies including the euro; the yield on the 10-year Treasury added 5 basis points to 2.448 percent.

The price of gold fluctuated between gains and losses, with futures for December delivery recently off 90 cents, or nearly 0.1 percent, at $1,269.60 an ounce; crude-oil futures for October delivery fell 77 cents, or 0.8 percent, to $94.77 a barrel.

Stocks held near record highs after a measure of the U.S. service sector in August came in better than expected.

Read MoreUS service sector booms in August, hits nine-year high

Stock futures had held gains after the August ADP employment report found the private sector added 204,000 jobs last month. Separately, the government reported 302,000 jobless claims were filed last week.

"Despite the tight labor market, wages are not careening out of control and appear to pose little if any threat to the Fed's steady policy stance," offered Wilkinson at Interactive Brokers.

Another report had the U.S. trade deficit narrowing in July to a six-month low as exports rose to a record.

The data "certainty point to solid economic expansion. It's good news for the equity markets, but you can see the market remains somewhat cautious; we're seeing signs of fatigue setting in," Rockwell Global Capital's Cardillo said.

On Wednesday, the S&P 500 cleared gains after hitting an all-time high, as investors shifting through mixed reports on talks to halt fighting in Ukraine.

Sep 04
DayOwl wrote:
    “You need to know,” the group wrote, “that accusations of a major Russian ‘invasion’ of Ukraine appear not to be supported by reliable intelligence. Rather, the ‘intelligence’ seems to be of the same dubious, politically ‘fixed’ kind used 12 years ago to ‘justify’ the U.S.-led attack on Iraq.”
Who’s Telling the ‘Big Lie’ on Ukraine?
September 2, 2014

Exclusive: Official Washington draws the Ukraine crisis in black-and-white colors with Russian President Putin the bad guy and the U.S.-backed leaders in Kiev the good guys. But the reality is much more nuanced, with the American people consistently misled on key facts, writes Robert Parry.

By Robert Parry...

Sep 03
debsyl wrote:
At this point I think it is vital to get people questioning the goings on in the Ukraine. Most people hear nothing but what is "fed" to them via the MSM. To consider another chain of events gets them thinking, and hopefully researching.

We can criticise everything we read, or we can pass it on and hope it causes the reader to read more on the given topic. When feeding a newborn you give them milk first, and add them meat later

I have found much information of value, albeit some misinformation mixed thereom.

Don't get me wrong, Debsyl. As I indicated previously; I see a lot of good information in the piece you posted. The problem is that the efforts of decent people to spread information are being undermined in various ways -- and thus otherwise good/accurate reporting or analysis gets distorted in one or more ways.

This may be better than any other piece we've seen about the Ukraine 'operation' (because it contains a lot of specific detail), and because it's written by people "on our side". However (for reasons noted) it's not perfect, and I think it's very important to specifically note distortions/inconsistencies -- because SOMEONE has to be able to explain these inconsistencies to others.

Sep 03
At this point I think it is vital to get people questioning the goings on in the Ukraine. Most people hear nothing but what is "fed" to them via the MSM. To consider another chain of events gets them thinking, and hopefully researching.

We can criticise everything we read, or we can pass it on and hope it causes the reader to read more on the given topic. When feeding a newborn you give them milk first, and add them meat later

I have found much information of value, albeit some misinformation mixed thereom.
Sep 02
Jeff Nielson replied to the topic Re: Anarchists of the World Unite in the forums.
FusionEnterprise wrote:
First I am defining Anarchists as those who are skeptical of power structures and are willing to challenge those structures to justify their own existence. Opposition to injustice is more significant than opposition to a party or a government. Specifically Anarchy is not at all like the American perversion of Libertarianism that seeks to preserve wealth for the privileged by protecting Private Power at the expense of supporting government. It goes deeper and uncovers all forms of power; military industrial complex, corporatism, security apparatus, bought elections, propaganda in the mainstream media, religious hate streams, marketplace manipulations by the Federal Reserve, etc.

If those who value freedom, hate injustice, yearn for a more pure form of voter empowerment, are sickened by 400/1 CEO to average worker pay ratios, recognize the market manipulations for what they are and wish to curb the power of the security state, would all come together in opposition to the Deep State, perhaps we could have an impact.

Fighting over social issues such as gay marriage is playing right into the hands of MiLords, the Oligarchy, whatever you want to the call them.

Can we stop squabbling and start fighting?

"Can we stop squabbling and start fighting?"

Lol FusionEnterprise! One of my closest friends is a self-described Anarchist, so this is not an unfamiliar debate to me. Indeed, with you seeming to indicate libertarian tendencies in yourself, it's more like "deja vu".

I understand the libertarian/anarchist position. TEAR DOWN the utterly corrupt power-structures (since there is nothing worth salvaging), and thus give INDIVIDUALS the chance to live their lives without the endemic tyranny/fascism which is currently impoverishing and oppressing us.

Then there is the alternative position (my own): the liberal/"humanist" (for lack of a better term) position. My reason for rejecting the libertarian/anarchist solution for the current corruption is based upon two points (which obviously are debatable):

1) As a social species; we do best when we COOPERATE and work collectively. Thus we need to avoid an anarchist approach to 'cleansing' our societies -- as this will result in unnecessary hardship/carnage (particularly amongst those least able to stand up for themselves).

2) The Psychopaths who rule us are (by definition) law-of-the-jungle Darwinists (and predators) -- of the most sadistic/malicious variety. I shudder to think of what sort of atrocities would be perpetrated by these Psychopaths in some anarchistic chaos, where there are even less "cops" around to deter their crimes.

For those who lean (strongly) towards Darwinism; they might see that hardship/carnage as PART of the "cleansing" process. There is an argument to be made that the human gene-pool has gotten severely 'diluted' -- and here I'm not referring to anything either racial or ethnic. Simply overall dilution of the gene pool, as an inevitable consequence of becoming monogamous societies, versus the (genetically efficient) polygamy practiced by most of our ancestors.

However, my rebuttal to that reasoning is that whatever we lose via 'dilution' of the human gene-pool we gain back through greater diversity.

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