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Mertis created a new topic Pseudoscience in the Witness Box in the forums.
The FBI Faked an Entire Field of Forensic Science
April 22 2015


www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics...ks_fingerprints.html

The Washington Post published a story so horrifying this weekend that it would stop your breath: “The Justice Department and FBI have formally acknowledged that nearly every examiner in an elite FBI forensic unit gave flawed testimony in almost all trials in which they offered evidence against criminal defendants over more than a two-decade period before 2000.”

What went wrong? The Post continues: “Of 28 examiners with the FBI Laboratory’s microscopic hair comparison unit, 26 overstated forensic matches in ways that favored prosecutors in more than 95 percent of the 268 trials reviewed so far.” The shameful, horrifying errors were uncovered in a massive, three-year review by the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers and the Innocence Project. Following revelations published in recent years, the two groups are helping the government with the country’s largest ever post-conviction review of questioned forensic evidence.



Chillingly, as the Post continues, “the cases include those of 32 defendants sentenced to death.” Of these defendants, 14 have already been executed or died in prison.

The massive review raises questions about the veracity of not just expert hair testimony, but also the bite-mark and other forensic testimony offered as objective, scientific evidence to jurors who, not unreasonably, believed that scientists in white coats knew what they were talking about. As Peter Neufeld, co-founder of the Innocence Project, put it, “The FBI’s three-decade use of microscopic hair analysis to incriminate defendants was a complete disaster.”


This study was launched after the Post reported that flawed forensic hair matches might have led to possibly hundreds of wrongful convictions for rape, murder, and other violent crimes, dating back at least to the 1970s. In 90 percent of the cases reviewed so far, forensic examiners evidently made statements beyond the bounds of proper science. There were no scientifically accepted standards for forensic testing, yet FBI experts routinely and almost unvaryingly testified, according to the Post, “to the near-certainty of ‘matches’ of crime-scene hairs to defendants, backing their claims by citing incomplete or misleading statistics drawn from their case work.”



NACDL executive director Norman Reimer said in an interview with Associations Now that the flaws in the system had been known for years now. “What we were finding was that the examiners … wouldn’t just simply say that there was a microscopic similarity [between the two hairs], but they would go beyond that and say it was a 100 percent match, essentially misleading the jury into concluding that the evidence had a certain value that it didn’t actually have,” Reimer said.

This problem doesn’t stop with the FBI labs or federal prosecutions. The review focuses on the first few hundred cases, involving FBI examiners, but the same mistakes and faulty testimony were likely presented in any state prosecutions that relied on the between 500 and 1,000 local or state examiners trained by the FBI. Some states will automatically conduct reviews. Others may not. Much of the evidence is now lost.

Systemic change, in other words, is being left to the discretion of the system itself.


Paradoxically, Justice Antonin Scalia has emerged as a vocal early skeptic about the risk of taint in the work of crime labs, even though he contended in 2006 that, “It should be noted at the outset that the dissent does not discuss a single case—not one—in which it is clear that a person was executed for a crime he did not commit. If such an event had occurred in recent years, we would not have to hunt for it; the innocent’s name would be shouted from the rooftops by the abolition lobby.” It is clearer now than ever that crime labs and prosecutors’ officers do make mistakes, shameful, devastating mistakes, and that they don’t usually distinguish between capital and noncapital cases when they do so.



Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, D-Vermont, and Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Texas, the ranking Democrats on the Senate Judiciary and House Science committees, respectively, are looking for forensic-science reforms to hold examiners to meaningful standards. But this hardly helps the folks who are in cells for crimes they didn’t commit, based on evidence that—according to scientific experts—is all but worthless.

This whole justice-disaster-on-wheels is not a problem that has gone unreported. As Conor Friedersdorf notes, state and national publications have been exposing the inadvertent errors and deliberate manipulations of forensic crime labs across the country for years now. We have covered these issues at Slate. But as long as crime labs answer to prosecutors, and indeed, according to Business Insider, in some cases they are compensated for each conviction, the incentives for reform are hopelessly upside-down. The problem, in short, isn’t that we can’t identify the problem.



There is no lack of good ideas for reform. (Journalist Radley Balko and Roger Koppl, a professor of finance at Syracuse University’s Whitman School of Management and a fellow at Syracuse’s Forensic and National Security Sciences Institute, offered up a laundry list of fixes in Slate—almost seven years ago.)* These solutions are not all that expensive or complicated. Among them: giving defendants their own forensic experts, untethering crime labs from the prosecutors and cops to which they now answer, verification and standards. But no matter how many times we may reiterate that the status quo is intolerable and that simple corrections would yield significantly better data, no real energy for reform exists.

University of Virginia law professor Brandon L. Garrett, who has been studying DNA exonerations and wrongful convictions for years now, had this to say in an email: “When I looked at forensics in DNA exoneree trials, I found more often than not that the testimony was unscientific and flawed. We know that whenever we look at old criminal cases we see flawed forensics wherever we look. And yet hardly any crime labs have bothered to conduct audits. Nor is the problem limited to bad hair cases—much the same type of eyeballed comparison is done on bite marks, ballistics, fibers, and even fingerprints.”




Horror stories abound. George Perrot (profiled by Ed Pilkington of the Guardian) may have spent 30 years in prison based on erroneous forensic hair testimony. Mississippi bite-mark expert Michael West, about whom Balko has written extensively, was shown in a recent film jamming the suspect’s dental mold into the body of a young victim. Santae Tribble served 28 years for a murder based on FBI testimony about a single strand of hair. He was exonerated in 2012. It was later revealed that one of the hairs presented at trial came from a dog.

And the reign of pseudoscience in the witness box hardly stops at hair and bite marks. It sweeps in the testimony of forensic psychiatrists like James Grigson, nicknamed Dr. Death for his willingness to testify against capital defendants, and flawed arson analysis that may have contributed to the execution of Texas’ Cameron Todd Willingham. Jurors grass-fed on CSI-Someplace and Law and Order believe uncritically in experts who throw around words like “cuticle” and “cortex,” and why shouldn’t they? These folks are supposed to be analysts who answer to the rules of science, not performance artists trotted out for the benefit of the prosecution.


Since prison-crowding and justice reform are widely touted as issues that unite the left and the right in this country, going back and retesting the evidence of those who may well have been wrongly imprisoned should be a national priority. So far it isn’t, perhaps because the scope of the enterprise is so daunting. Or perhaps because nobody really cares all that much about people who’ve been sitting in jail for years and years. Says Garrett: “These victims may remain unrecognized and in prison—if they still live—and the same unscientific testimony continues to be delivered without limitation. … But hey, these are just criminal cases right?”
09:45 PM
6 days ago
Earl created a new topic EPA to Allow Consumption of Fracking Wastewater in the forums.
To the Community,

There's always a cry for less regulation, less government interference. To end the "alphabet soup of agencies", end the EPA.

IF one could get "Civil" justice.

I use to be on that Libertarian wagon of "less is best" when it came to Government regulations. But either way, it just never works. There's no "civil" justice in Fascism. Whether it's rigged interest rates that rob every city, county, state, of taxpayers money financing public schools, nursing homes and hospitals. To the billions of dollars tax payers pay to clean up after big sugar in the Florida Everglades, to the Big Oil "disaster" in the Gulf of Mexico.

The penalty never fits the crime. Simple "cost of doing business" and the crime is done over and over again. Pollution, fraud, bribes, lobbyist, etc.

California water restrictions don't apply to "Big Oil".

California Drought: LOTS of water for 'fracking'


Jeff stated-
As some readers already know; California is in the midst of one of the worst droughts on record, and has now begun SEVERE water rationing, for everyone except the farmers and the frackers. Supposedly, Big Agriculture has already taken a hit in terms of its water allowance, and that's why it was spared any further cuts. But for Big Oil (and its environmentally-destructive "fracking"); it's simply "take all you want".

bullionbullscanada.com/bulletin-boards/1...f-water-for-fracking

Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Tea Party doesn't matter. It hasn't mattered for a long time.

Gold bug, Silvertard, Tree hugger...let me quote there exact description of me " the typical knee-jerk, anti-capitalism, tree-worshipping environmentalist."

There will be no civil penalties, no civil justice and no civil respect.

So drink and be merry.

Thank You
Earl

EPA to Allow Consumption of Toxic Fracking Wastewater by Wildlife and Livestock


www.nationofchange.org/epa-allow-consump...livestock-1373811581

Millions of gallons of water laced with toxic chemicals from oil and gas drilling rigs are pumped for consumption by wildlife and livestock with the formal approval from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), according to public comments filed yesterday by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). Contrary to its own regulations, EPA is issuing permits for surface application of drilling wastewater without even identifying the chemicals in fluids used for hydraulic fracturing, also known as fracking, let alone setting effluent limits for the contaminants contained within them.

The EPA has just posted proposed new water discharge permits for the nearly dozen oil fields on or abutting the Wind River Reservation in Wyoming as the EPA has Clean Water Act jurisdiction on tribal lands. Besides not even listing the array of toxic chemicals being discharged, the proposed permits have monitoring requirements so weak that water can be tested long after fracking events or maintenance flushing. In addition, the permits lack any provisions to protect the health of wildlife or livestock.

“Under the less than watchful eye of the EPA, fracking flowback is dumped into rivers, lakes and reservoirs,” stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch, pointing out that in both the current and the new proposed permits the EPA ignores its own rules requiring that it list “the type and quantity of wastes, fluids or pollutants which are proposed to be or are being treated, stored, disposed of, injected, emitted or discharged.”

“Gushers of putrid, grayish water encrusted with chemical crystals flood through Wind River into nearby streams,” he added.

Surface disposal of water produced by oil and gas drilling is forbidden in the Eastern U.S. but allowed in the arid West for purposes of “agricultural or wildlife propagation,” in the words of the governing federal regulation. Thus, the “produced water,” as it is called, must be “of good enough quality to be used for wildlife or livestock watering or other agricultural uses.”

In the last decade, fracking fluids often consisting of powerfully toxic chemicals have been included in this surface discharge. The exact mixture used by individual operators is treated as a trade secret. But one recent analysis identified 632 chemicals now used in shale-gas production. More than 75 percent of them affect the respiratory and gastrointestinal systems; 40-50 percent impact the kidneys and the nervous, immune and cardiovascular systems; 37 percent act on the hormone system; and 25 percent are linked with cancer or mutations.

“Amid all the controversy on this topic, there is one point of agreement: Drinking fracking fluids is not a good idea,” added Ruch, pointing to cases where cattle drinking creek water contaminated with fracking fluids died or failed to produce calves the following year. “The more than 30-year old ‘produced water’ exception was intended for naturally occurring fluids and muds from within the geologic formations, not this new generation of powerful chemicals introduced downhole.”

PEER is asking the EPA to rewrite the permits to regulate all the chemicals being discharged and to determine whether the “produced water” is potable for wildlife and livestock. The public comments period on the proposed Wind Reservation permits closes on July 26.

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Josh Fox (born 1972) is an American film director and environmental activist, best known for his Oscar-nominated 2010 documentary, Gasland.

An emergency short film from Josh Fox, the Oscar-nominated director of GASLAND addressing the urgent crisis of drilling and fracking in New York state.

For more info/links on "Fracking"-
vimeo.com/44367635



05:46 PM
Earl replied to the topic Re: **IMPORTANT** question about Forum usage??? in the forums.
Jeff,

Yes, personally I use that column constantly. I even call it "the board". If a topic that I feel is important, for example, "The original corporate raiders", if bye chance it gets "knocked off" with a continual back and forth exchange on the merits of the Pope, I'll post to that thread to get the topic back "on the board".

I also use it to see who's posting. Sometimes there's a "blast from the past" and I'll check it out to see how they're doing. That posting tells me they're around and maybe even to write privately a note to say "hey".

From that column, I now know agau121 is alive and well and recently posted. That said, "hey", agau121. Good to hear from you

Now, if the column wasn't there, I'd probably double post on topics during busier times.

If it's there, I use it. If it's not, I'm sure, I'd adjust if it wasn't there. "The Board", that's my input.

Thank You
Earl
02:31 PM
2 weeks ago
Earl replied to the topic Re: NRA Conventioneers Grumble in the forums.
Jeff/Community,

South Carolina lawmaker wants mandatory gun classes in schools

[note the link for the second item doesn't work]


I just wanted to post the "second item" in full with link.

Jeff's reply,

What could be the possible purpose of "mandatory gun classes"? To brainwash more girls, the segment of the population most-resistant to the guns-and-news propaganda, the guns-and-entertainment propaganda, and its guns-and-games propaganda. Force the girls to be exposed to this brainwashing -- whether they like it, or not. More, pure fascism.


South Carolina lawmaker wants mandatory gun classes in schools


www.msnbc.com/msnbc/south-carolina-lawma...-gun-classes-schools



A Republican lawmaker from South Carolina wants high schools in his state to teach a gun-focused curriculum designed with material “developed or recommended” by the National Rifle Association (NRA).

State Rep. Alan Clemmons recently filed a measure in the legislature proposing the South Carolina educational program require students to complete a minimum three-week class each academic year designed by the NRA. In his filing, Clemmons said the course would alter an existing course on the U.S. Constitution to emphasize the Second Amendment. Students would learn about gun rights, gun safety, and potentially attend shooting ranges, if legislators pass a complementary companion bill.

The NRA-endorsed Republican recommended topics for the syllabus, including the right to bear arms for all citizens, the constitutionality of gun-control laws, and issues concerning the underlying causes of gun violence.

Clemmons didn’t immediately respond to msnbc’s request for comment. But in the measure he filed last month, he stated: “One result of hostility toward the Second Amendment has been an absolute intolerance for any discussion of guns or depiction of guns in writing or in assignments in public schools, which is an affront to First Amendment rights and harshly inhibits creative expression and academic freedom.”

Zero tolerance policies in schools, he said, often shut down conversations about Americans’ right to bear arms. Last year, a South Carolina high school student was arrested and suspended for submitting a creative writing assignment about killing a dinosaur with a gun. Clemmons told U.S. News & World Report that such policies allow students to believe the gun is an “evil instrument.”

Also included in his proposed legislation, which he pre-filed last month, is the “Second Amendment Education Act of 2015,” which would designate Dec. 15 — the day after the anniversary of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School — as “Second Amendment Awareness Day” in South Carolina. The measure also would require students as young as elementary-aged children to enter poster or essay contests themed: “The Right to Bear Arms: One American Right Protecting All Others.” The South Carolina legislature, he wrote, would recognize and honor the top winners.

He reportedly hopes for a hearing before the House Education Committee early this year.

Opponents created a petition to fight the proposal, in which they argue staff should teach the entire Constitution as part of a curriculum designed by educators.

Less than six months after the Dec. 14, 2012 tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, Clemmons traveled north in May 2013 to convince gun manufacturers, who were dismayed by opposition in the wake of the massacre, to move to South Carolina. Each year after Thanksgiving, Clemmons’ state holds a tax-free weekend for gun purchases.

South Carolina received an “F” grade and ranked 34 out of all 50 states in the most recent annual scorecard published at the end of December by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. The letter reflects the southern state’s weakening of gun laws in bars and loosening restrictions on firearms in cars last year. The Palmetto State doesn’t prohibit assault weapons, require reporting of mental health information, nor call for background checks on private gun sales.

A different Republican, Gov. Rick Snyder, of Michigan, on Thursday vetoed two bills — backed by the NRA — that would have allowed some domestic abusers and stalkers subject to restraining orders to obtain concealed gun permits in the state. Former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was shot in the head outside of an Arizona supermarket in 2011, women leaders, pro-gun control organizations, and editorial boards of local newspapers applauded the governor’s decision. The current law in Michigan, which received a “C” grade and ranked 14 out of 50 states on the 2014 scorecard, prohibits domestic abusers and stalkers from receiving a concealed-carry license.

What could be the possible purpose of "mandatory gun classes"? To brainwash more girls, the segment of the population most-resistant to the guns-and-news propaganda, the guns-and-entertainment propaganda, and its guns-and-games propaganda. Force the girls to be exposed to this brainwashing -- whether they like it, or not. More, pure fascism.

Thank You
Earl
Apr 12
Earl replied to the topic Re: NRA Conventioneers Grumble in the forums.
Jeff,

Observing your statement-

Perhaps no one line signifies the degree (and insanity) of this brainwashing better than this line:

NRA member Dan Utz of the Chicago area says he tries never to patronize establishments that don’t allow guns. In this case, he says he may have to break his rule.


From this link- nashvillepublicradio.org/post/nra-conven...gestone-arena-events

Jeff as you expressed-

Sadly Earl, (nearly) all of the Gun-Lovers have now been driven away from BBC, so it's easier to speak candidly here. It's a commentary on how strongly these minds are gripped by their pro-gun brainwashing that even many "close friends" of the Community chose to stop visiting -- because insulting their "love" for for these deadly toys was of more significance to them than all of their positive reasons for wanting to come here.

Jeff, that is sad.

The second story-

Florida House committee approves bill to allow guns at college
01/23/15

www.msnbc.com/msnbc/florida-house-commit...l-allow-guns-college

Jeff, this was a vote in the house. My feeling was the politicians are that intimidated bye this so called organization.

What organization would actually want armed college students on college campuses?

What Professor would want to attempt to teach in a class room or on a campus of armed students ?

Age limit is 21 on campus to carry a concealed weapon. So is drinking alcohol.

Trained Police officers/Campus officers show consistently bad judgement, adding more youth, more weapons just doesn't seem to be a highly educated solution to campus crime.

Students at the States universities are protesting and college deans are putting there foot down. Is the future for instructors to teach behind bullet proof glass, carry a gun to there car and feel "safe".

To the students, a false sense of security. There's flaws in standardized testing. There's flaws in standardized maturity.

RELATED: South Carolina lawmaker wants mandatory gun classes in schools


www.msnbc.com/msnbc/south-carolina-lawma...-gun-classes-schools

Mandatory gun classes, starting military schools ? I actually had to chuckle thinking of the "Joe Camel" adds enticing kids to smoke.

Then back to the first article and the quote-

NRA member Dan Utz of the Chicago area says he tries never to patronize establishments that don’t allow guns. In this case, he says he may have to break his rule.

To me, it's a tone of arrogance.

Weapons are being glamorized, the symbol of your "freedom", the barometer to signal your "rights" being taken away. Add in a dose of the arrogance it creates.

I see huge marketing, political intimidation and with it even more corruption. Diversion of the real topics. A lot of money being made playing a game of paranoia.

Freedom to operate your business as long as you allow guns. Freedom to educate and walk in freedom, as long as you have the ability to carry a gun.

Next, vehicle safety with a concealed weapons permit. Lower you insurance premiums.

It's great marketing. Ammo prices have gone through the roof. Shut down a couple factories for retro fitting, you create a weapons/ammo conspiracy. Just throw a legislative bill out there to limit sales, start buying frenzy.

I'm sure there's many ways to observe this. I just don't see "solutions". I don't think that's the intention.

Gun safety, marksmanship, is something I was taught at a very yearly age. Privately, in a family setting.

At the BBC, I think we've all have had to look in the mirror and admit how we as a society/individual get played bye these oligarchs.

Jeff states-

BUT this fanatic Gun-Lover is willing to part with his beloved phallic symbol (lol!) for one, and only one reason: so he can go to a some 'temple' which WORSHIPS GUNS, and will be filled with other gun-loving zombie/zealots like himself.


Earl's solution to a location for the next NRA "temple" convention-

Billionaire Bill Koch Builds His Own Wild West Town on His Colorado Ranch


realestate.aol.com/blog/2012/08/23/billi...t-town-on-his-color/

The Wild West isn't gone -- in fact, it's re-emerging in Colorado.

Billionaire Bill Koch is building an entire Wild West town (pictured above) on his 6,400-acre Bear Ranch in Gunnison County, Colo., the Denver Post reported. It has 50 buildings, which include a saloon, a jail, a church and a train station.

But Old West enthusiasts shouldn't expect to visit Koch's private, unpopulated town: It's for his amusement only and reportedly will not be open to the public.

"It's the kind of stuff I guess you would expect a billionaire to construct," Ramon Reed, chairman of the Gunnison County Planning Commission, told the Post. "It's like something out of a 'Gunsmoke' movie set."

To build the town, Koch, who is founder and president of energy company Oxbow Group, bought Buckskin Joe (pictured at left and below), a former Wild West tourist attraction in Colorado. He uprooted the buildings there and had them transported to his ranch. Koch doled out $3.1 million for Buckskin Joe in 2010.

Koch's net worth is estimated at about $4 billion, according to Forbes. He's a brother of David and Charles Koch, who have become famous for their contributions to politically conservative causes, and he's also active in those circles.

The billionaire is a lover of the days of the Old West. He paid $2.3 million last year for an original photo of famed Wild West outlaw Billy the Kid. At the time, he told the Post: "I love the Old West. I plan on enjoying it and discreetly sharing it. I think I'll display it in a few small museums."

billionaire Bill Koch wild west town Gunnison County has also approved a 22,000-square-foot residence that Koch wants to build on a hillside above his Wild West town. That's right: Koch won't even live in the town -- he just wants to be in a prime location to simply look at it.

This may be the first example of someone actually building his own Wild West town, but it's certainly not the only one of its kind out there. The town of Woodside, Utah, a Wild West ghost town, recently hit the market for $3.9 million. And the town near Hildebran, N.C., called District 12, which was used in "The Hunger Games," was also up for sale earlier this year for $1.4 million.

Thank You
Earl
Apr 11
Earl created a new topic NRA Conventioneers Grumble in the forums.
To the Community,

A few articles from the peoples favorite Manufacture sponsored lobbyist organization. "This ain't your granddads NRA".

Thank You
Earl



NRA Conventioneers Grumble About Gun Ban At Bridgestone Arena Events

By Blake Farmer • Apr 6, 2015

nashvillepublicradio.org/post/nra-conven...gestone-arena-events

The right to bear arms will draw out-of-towners by the tens of thousands to Nashville this week. But not all venues at the National Rifle Association annual meeting welcome concealed firearms.

Those with carry permits are in the clear inside the Music City Center. But the big nightly concerts are across the street at Bridgestone Arena.

"Bridgestone Arena prohibits the possession of firearms," according to a disclaimer on the NRA website. "When carrying your firearm, remember to follow all federal, state and local laws."

It’s not unusual for parts of the NRA convention to be off limits to guns. Last year in Indianapolis, Lucas Oil Stadium enforced its firearm ban. In 2010, the entire convention area in Charlotte restricted concealed carrying.

NRA member Dan Utz of the Chicago area says he tries never to patronize establishments that don’t allow guns. In this case, he says he may have to break his rule.

“I paid for the tickets and they’re non-refundable, so I will probably go," Utz said. "Had I known before, I can’t say for sure that I wouldn’t have, but I would have strongly considered not [going].”

This week in Nashville, a few downtown hotels also are sticking to their bans on guns. The Courtyard Marriott and the Sheraton won’t allow firearms, even with permits.


Florida House committee approves bill to allow guns at college

01/23/15

www.msnbc.com/msnbc/florida-house-commit...l-allow-guns-college



A Republican-led House committee in Florida this week approved a measure that could allow students to carry guns and concealed weapons on college campuses — just two months after a shooter injured three people at a Florida State University library.

Republican State Rep. Greg Steube, who filed the bill, said the measure would make campuses safer by allowing gun owners to intervene in shooting situations. The lawmaker said he doesn’t think that law-abiding citizens who successfully obtain their firearms licenses should be stripped of their constitutional rights simply because they walked from a shopping plaza across the street to a college campus.

Gun-free zones, he said, don’t prevent shootings from happening, citing the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre that killed 32 people and wounded 17 more.

Florida law currently prevents adults with firearms licenses from carrying weapons into various locations, including grade schools, prisons, courthouses, and polling places. In contrast to college campuses, most of those buildings, Steube argues, already have armed government officials or metal detectors present.

“Just because an area is called ‘gun-free,’ that doesn’t stop the criminals from walking on and creating havoc,” he told msnbc. “These ‘gun-free zones’ certainly don’t protect the innocent people that are there just because there is a law prohibiting people from carrying a firearm.”

If the law is passed, students who are at least 21 years old and own a firearms license would be allowed to carry concealed guns on college or university campuses. During the House hearing on Tuesday, Steube said the requirement still would exclude younger college students and comprise less than 1% of the state’s permit holders.

In November, a former student of Florida State opened fire inside the library and injured two students and a school employee. The police fatally shot him after he fired a round at officers. Steube told his colleagues at the hearing that he began drafting the bill before the Florida State shooting.

The measure was split along party lines, with eight Republicans supporting the measure and four Democrats opposing it.

Two other House committees must approve the measure before it moves forward. If passed, it will take effect on July 1 and make Florida the eighth state to allow guns on campuses, joining Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Mississippi, Oregon, Utah, and Wisconsin.

Steube has reintroduced a similar bill in the past three years that would allow guns in elementary, middle, and high schools. It has yet to pass the state Senate.

Last April, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal signed a sweeping gun bill into law that allows firearms in several different kinds of buildings and areas, including in school classrooms. The legislation was deemed the “guns everywhere bill.”

Since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, on Dec. 12, 2014, nearly 100 school shootings have occurred on American soil, the FBI says mass shootings are on the rise, and active-shooter and lockdown drills have become part of students’ routines.

The Sunshine State received an “F” grade and ranked 32 out of the 50 states in the most recent annual scorecard published at the end of December by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. The letter reflects the southern state’s weak gun laws, which do not require background checks on private sales, and allow for the purchase of assault weapons.

RELATED: South Carolina lawmaker wants mandatory gun classes in schools

www.msnbc.com/msnbc/south-carolina-lawma...-gun-classes-schools

Portion of article-

A Republican lawmaker from South Carolina wants high schools in his state to teach a gun-focused curriculum designed with material “developed or recommended” by the National Rifle Association (NRA).

State Rep. Alan Clemmons recently filed a measure in the legislature proposing the South Carolina educational program require students to complete a minimum three-week class each academic year designed by the NRA. In his filing, Clemmons said the course would alter an existing course on the U.S. Constitution to emphasize the Second Amendment. Students would learn about gun rights, gun safety, and potentially attend shooting ranges, if legislators pass a complementary companion bill.

The NRA-endorsed Republican recommended topics for the syllabus, including the right to bear arms for all citizens, the constitutionality of gun-control laws, and issues concerning the underlying causes of gun violence.

The old golden rule- Reading, Writing and Arithmatic
Thank You Earl
Apr 10
Earl, Earl replied to the topic Re: Gulf seafood deformities alarm scientists in the forums.
To quote Jeff-

Of course what we REALLY need is an honest government, willing to hit these Corporate predators (and their management) with the serious, criminal charges which should automatically arise from any act of negligence this large, and this damaging.


BP Deepwater oil spill: Ex-Halliburton manager sentenced

21 January 2014

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-25831354

A former manager at US energy services giant Halliburton who admitted destroying evidence in an inquiry into the largest oil spill in US history has been sentenced to a year's probation.

Anthony Badalamenti, 62, pleaded guilty in a US district court in October.

He admitted to deleting records of computer simulations relating to the April 2010 Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

The disaster was caused by an explosion at BP's Deepwater Horizon rig, which killed 11 people.
Community service

Badalamenti was the cementing technology director for Halliburton, which had been hired to provide cementing services to BP on the Macondo oil well, 18,360ft (5,596m) under the surface.

Soon after the explosion, US government agencies began investigating the incident, and Halliburton was obligated to preserve documents relating to the well.

In May, while oil was still seeping uncontrolled from the well into the Gulf of Mexico, Badalamenti instructed a subordinate to run computer simulations of the cementing job on the Macondo well.

Badalamenti reviewed the results of the simulations, then ordered his subordinate to delete records of the simulations, according to court records filed in the October plea agreement.

His subordinate "felt uncomfortable" deleting the computer files, but still complied.

Another Halliburton employee also deleted data after receiving instructions from Badalamenti, prosecutors said.

In addition to a year of probation, Badalamenti was also sentenced to 100 hours of community service and ordered to pay a $1,000 (£607) fine.

Separately, Halliburton has pleaded guilty to the unauthorised deletion of data.

The contractor is the third of three major companies at the heart of the huge oil spill to admit criminal wrongdoing.

BP and rig operator Transocean have already pleaded guilty to charges related to the disaster.
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